TOP SPEED's!!!

[babyalien]

i've noticed recently that on the register there are lots of posts regarding 0-60 and 1/4 mile times but i haven't seen anything regarding top speed's achieved. i might have missed then on here or something, if i have then feel free to point and laugh at me as i sit in the corner with the dunce hat on!! :p obviously you'd have to have the right stetch of road at the right time of day(late at night presumably) where there are no speed camera's. post's may be few and far between due to the fact that if your caught you'd lose your licence straight away so its at your own risk. i thought it would be interesting to find out how much faster than the factory stated top speed of 121mph people had managed to achieve.


risky and dumb shit to do but remember, if your not caught by the law how can you be speeding ;)

[TomH]

You mean you dont have your own personal runway in the back garden ;) I know several RR members have had them installed latley tongue out

[darrenwm]

Private airfields etc are owned by most RR members for these purposes.

Remember that speedo's are not always accurate so this can be a hotly contested debate.

I personally don't speed, but if I wanted to know the top speed of my car I'd work it out by calculating mph per 1000rpm and taking around 10% off of the total for inaccuracies :)

[G-sport]

mines goes fast tongue out lol

i dont have a private runway though to test top speed.........and up until the other week only had dodgy tyres with cracked tyre walls so was never safe to try

[babyalien]

yeah i have many private runways near me ;) particularly long ones(guess big planes used to land there) :) unfortunately i'm crap at maths and so can't work out top speeds with mph per 1000rpm and so have to do it the old fashioned way using the speedo. it might not be 100% accurate but it gives a good idea cheese

[TomH]

mines goes fast tongue out lol

i dont have a private runway though to test top speed.........and up until the other week only had dodgy tyres with cracked tyre walls so was never safe to try

http://www.pughosting.co.uk/main/forums/smilies/whistling2.gif

Wasnt you i saw on our private runway the other month then... doing a certain speed on them tyres!

[G-sport]

http://www.pughosting.co.uk/main/forums/smilies/whistling2.gif

Wasnt you i saw on our private runway the other month then... doing a certain speed on them tyres!

doh i stopped at the indicated soeed rating on my tyres where as you kept going beyond the indicated speed rating of my tyres lol

[darrenwm]

Well in my GTi (RIP)...

2000rpm in 5th was around 40mph,
3000rpm in 5th was around 60mph,
etc

So considering max power was in the high-6000's, I reckon a private runway could indicate a speed of approx. 136mph ;) but taking into account speedo inaccuracies this could be anywhere inbetween the 122mph and 128mph quoted top speeds.

Before trying this be aware that a blow-out at even 70mph is dangerous, so be careful incase your private airfield has a central reservation... :p

[G-sport]

Before trying this be aware that a blow-out at even 70mph is dangerous, so be careful incase your private airfield has a central reservation... :p


very very true story ..........the thought always crosses my mind when my speed goes beyond 100+mph

good strong tyres are essential with the correct speed ratings

[darrenwm]

very very true story ..........the thought always crosses my mind when my speed goes beyond 100+mph

good strong tyres are essential with the correct speed ratings

...but then again you good have a 'blow-out' at 30mph and swerve into an oncoming car...

...so need to worry really as modern cars/tyres are developed to take much higher speeds...

...I'm sure they sell F1's, Potenza's etc in outfitters close to those limitless German roads :)

[mick humphreys]

no one has actually answered the original question! im my standard engined valver s1 on 45/15's it would bounce of the limiter at an indicated 125mph. with my new engine i've seen 130 and bottled it but my rev counter dont work so i dont know how much further it had! i'd say another 600rpm maybe?? hopefully i can get my car to a performance gti thrash next year when they'll gps it so i know for sure

[Harper]

i was at just over 7000 rpm in 5th which showed 120 on the speedo iirc

[dynofiend]

the reason no one talks about top speeds is really cos its totally meaningless.

Firstly peoples speedos arent going to be calibrated the same, so one persons 120 is anothers 110, or whatever.

Secondly, in reality, you would never reach that speed in a situation other than testing to see how fast you could go, ie on track, even at silverstone, my s1 rallye wasnt maxing out, and even if it did, it would have been the gearing that stopped it going any faster.

Thirdly, when people test top speeds, things like tyre pressures, road gradients, tailwinds etc etc all come into play, meaning its not even a level playing field to start with.

It all just seems pointless.

[G-sport]

the reason no one talks about top speeds is really cos its totally meaningless.

Firstly peoples speedos arent going to be calibrated the same, so one persons 120 is anothers 110, or whatever.

Secondly, in reality, you would never reach that speed in a situation other than testing to see how fast you could go, ie on track, even at silverstone, my s1 rallye wasnt maxing out, and even if it did, it would have been the gearing that stopped it going any faster.

Thirdly, when people test top speeds, things like tyre pressures, road gradients, tailwinds etc etc all come into play, meaning its not even a level playing field to start with.

It all just seems pointless.


and it pretty damn dangerous on a public road........if a 106 blew out at anything over 100mph you would be dead, chances are you would go into a multiple roll or be ripped to shreds by the central reservation

[babyalien]

still, given all the risk's, the many that there are, after having my 4-2-1 supersprint manifold fitted i managed a speed of 125 at 6000rpm and after that i shit my pants and backed off and had to brake for about 3/4 of a mile before i met a rather intimidating roundabout yikes . sssssssssssssh! don't tell the rozzers ;)

[G-sport]

. sssssssssssssh! don't tell the rozzers ;)

ironic thats theres about 4-5 police officers who pretty much run this forum ;) :D so you effectively just told them ;)

[dunc]

yes, but speedo's arent that accurate at that speed ;)

ive had mine at an indicated 120, not on the limiter either... downhill tho ;)

on track, silverstone was about 115mph on the front straight, with more to go... and about 115 again ont he FCS straight...

[babyalien]

oh but of course i meant that it wasn't on a public road, that would be blatantly irrisponsable with complete disregard for public safety. there's a long private road i know which ends after a great distance and then you join onto a public road at the round about. at that point i'm legal i'm sure

[C-Side-innit]

well the valver will do whatever the s1 gearbox is capable of, so 129ish i think, btw off topic but what is peak power on the GTI? 6800?

[darrenwm]

A GTi struggles to pull in the high-6000's

[charlie_sav]

ironic thats theres about 4-5 police officers who pretty much run this forum ;) :D so you effectively just told them ;)

doh i've just posted my 0-110 times, pulling out of layby, this layby was on a runway of course, they have them for planes to rest in :o

but yes top speeds are pritty pointless, and when you get near your top speed the car is acceleration slow slowly as it's fighting the wind resistance that there is not much point,
0-100 or 40-90 odd off a roundabout or traffic lights are where you mainly sort out the quick (in a straight line) cars from the slow on a daily basis.

[Nick S]

A GTi struggles to pull in the high-6000's

a few people have said that now but mine doesnt at all. pull shard to an indicated 7400rpm in every gear, with my old box i hit an indicated 147mph but havn't gone flat out with my new gearbox. i reckon it would hit the limiter about 135mph now. on the motorway at 70mph i'm at abou 4200rpm!

[darrenwm]

What 'box you running?!?

My limiter was around 7300, and in 5th the speedo was always around twice the rpm i.e. indicated 70mph was 3500rpm.

Maybe a case of speedo inaccuracies at 147 :confused:

[G-sport]

on the motorway at 70mph i'm at abou 4200rpm!

nice yikes cant imagine that being much fun to drive wtf

[mick humphreys]

thats what a 1300 rallye box does about 70 at 4000rpm. it seems wierd that between us all there can only be a few combinations of engine/gearbox yet such different readings. i know as its been said speedos rev counters can be inaccurate but maybe some people need their eyes tested!

anyway its all just a bit of harmless fun. older performance gti's have tables in with top speeds i think most gti's were about 128-130 with exception of 1 that was 140. the rallyes domain is 2nd through third anyway i reckon through and out of bends thats where you're gonna giant kill. top speed all comes down to max power and gear ratios. less weight just means you get their quicker!

[mick humphreys]

well maybe not harmless!

[timmy (the face) b]

Fastest I've had my S1 16V on public roads is about 80mph because I'm a (relatively) good boy.

Had 125mph indicated at Coombe before Quarry and I then had 120mph, again indicated, at Silverstone with a poorly engine (cam timing backed off because of piston slap :()

It's an each-to-their-own subject really. I phoned a friend of mine the other night and he boasted about having 138mph down a hill past my house in his VTR. I felt like bursting into laughter at him, but that's obviously something he's really proud of so I let him have his glory without the ball of flames that should have followed ;)

[mick humphreys]

top speed is always gonna give the bullshitters in this world an opportunity to "express themselves"

[timmy (the face) b]

top speed is always gonna give the bullshitters in this world an opportunity to "express themselves"

I concur

[mick humphreys]

nice word

[Nick S]

oh yeah. obviously i know i'd never hit a true 147mph. it was just indicated. i reckon max of about 135mph. that was when i had a VTR box on there. i've got a 1.1i box now and it's stupidly short ratios. not good on motorways but so much more fun otherwise. picks up fast in any gear.

[Nick S]

the rallyes domain is 2nd through third anyway i reckon through and out of bends thats where you're gonna giant kill.

my old S1 rallye had an S2 engine in with air filter, pugsport and was stripped out. when i got my gti i raced them side by side. my gti has BMC enclosed, scorpion exhaust and is stripped. it just wasn't a race yikes gti killed it every gear, every road. even to 60mph the gap was huge! the rallye used to do 0-60mph on the g-tech in 7.52 the gti does it in 6.02

[Matt_H]

Fastest indicated was 127, just shy of the limiter

Fastest recorded on GPS was 121

[Dave P]

I'm sure my car will do over 120mph but i dont bother and i dont get up to those speeds on the hills.

[G-sport]

:D :D I'm sure my car will do over 120mph but i dont bother and i dont get up to those speeds on the hills.


plus your ear drum would likely disintergrate :D

[mick humphreys]

throttle bodies plus no sound deadening = bleeding eardrums!

[Gordon F]

and it pretty damn dangerous on a public road........if a 106 blew out at anything over 100mph you would be dead, chances are you would go into a multiple roll or be ripped to shreds by the central reservation
youd be lucky to survive a 70mph crash in a 106 so what you so worried about anyway you could be doin 30 mph and be killed. the only problem with speeding is you get some tossers that cant control a car whilst going fast and they could kill someone else and also if your caught over 100 you can probs say goodbye to your licence

[peter86]

i can do the clock in my 8v s2 rallye. Dont know what the true speed is? But it shakes alot, lol. ill try and get a video up.

[stu wiltshire]

i wudnt dude ur get told off. :D

[peter86]

oh yeh better not, ill get pple moaning for doing it on public roads, lol woo hoo

[G-sport]

youd be lucky to survive a 70mph crash in a 106 so what you so worried about anyway you could be doin 30 mph and be killed. the only problem with speeding is you get some tossers that cant control a car whilst going fast and they could kill someone else and also if your caught over 100 you can probs say goodbye to your licence


the point was there a MUCH higher chance of crashing/having a blow out/dieing over 100mph than at 70mph

[dynofiend]

who CARES how fast you can go, how much skill does it take to find a downhill section of road and push your foot on the floor. LMAO at the comment that some people dont have the 'skill' to control a car at high speed. It doesnt take skill. It takes observation and is bollock all to do with car control unless you are stupid enough to be driving on the limits of adhesion at those speeds.

Its something you most often hear younger drivers boasting about, not because they are stupid or anything, but because eventually they grow out of it.

[mick humphreys]

theres nothing wrong with being immature. i hit 140 downhill in mine last night woohoo. i think there should be a limit to how long a thread can stay up for so many threads like this one just go over and over the same point again and again. we're not gonna convince anyone to change their minds on something no matter how long we argue.

each to their own

[stu wiltshire]

its not a arguement its just wot ppl think.personaly every car i have i will see wot i can get out of it.if ur in to cars or abit of a petrol head then i think theres summit wrong if u dont like abit of speed.yes its dangerous speeding on the roads and i try not to wen its busy.but i cant help but go fast.its dangerous to walk down the road at nite but ppl do it.and as for tire blow outs its very unlikely these days,maybe in a lorry but not in a car.

[G-sport]

and as for tire blow outs its very unlikely these days,maybe in a lorry but not in a car.

tell that to the family of vectra driver who killed himself and his wife on the M1 about 3 weeks ago when he had a blow out at 90+ mph and hit the central reservation closing the m1 north bound for half the day

i think what people are getting at is its all very well and good doing it....as you say most people do at some point..........but having a good boast about doing 100+mph on a public road in a public forum is irresponsible !!!

[babyalien]

a valid point about the 'boasting' issue and speeding public roads but you have to look at things from both angles. ok, the vectra driver had a blowout at 90mph but lets be honest, none of us truly know all the details. for all we know, the driver may never have had the car serviced and/or was driving on badly worn tyre's. if the tyre's were in a bad condition then this may well have contributed to the blowout. maybe talking about speeding on public roads on public forum isn't a clever thing and when i posted the topic for discussion i didn't expect people to admit where they had done it, just top speeds acheived since owning the car. adminting its on a public road/highway will always stir mixed emotions in us all and so i guess we'll all have to accept we all have different views on it. guess life would be boring if we were all the same :) 'CAN'T WE ALL JUST...GET ALONG'-Jack Nickeson in Batman very happy

[dynofiend]

agreed, if you want to press down on your right foot for a long time, and then boast about how amazing it was when you did it, and how great you/your car was when you did it, go right ahead.

[stu wiltshire]

but i dont think its boastin.babyalien just put a thread up askin wot top speeds ppl have had and thats it.no racin involved just a top speed and it doesnt matter if its on the road,track,hill clime or speed ring,so for ppl whos only done 70 then just put 70,we all no that a 1.6 8v or a 1.3 16v/8v (cant remember) isnt gonna break any records and if ur lucky if might hit 140 depending on mods but then thats just wot the clocks sayin inless u have one of those speed things.
I also never said that blow outs dont happen i said its unlikely these days wiv the quality of the tires out.Also the vectra cud of blew out at 70mph.most vectra drivers i no dont check tire pressures or even the wear on the tires.
i no wot its like to loose freinds on the road but they had a accident,no speedin but just bad luck,shit happens every day but i think u have to live ur life to the full.
mayb this thread shud be deleted now?

[mick humphreys]

yes i think it should be deleted. and who says its irresponsible saying stuff on a public forum god its not like we're going into schools and telling little kids to go out and break the law. i'd like to think as adults we can make our own minds up about whether we want to do something or not. someone might come on here and say "i always jump red lights" dont mean im gonna go out and do it

[TomH]

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No reason why we shouldnt discuss top speeds, i achieved 100mph tops on cadwell park.... but it was safe(ish) to be doing that speed and i understand the risks and so does everyone else who steped onto the track...

However on public roads its not so clever, if someone pulled out on you at 120mph or switched lanes without looking you wouldnt stand a chance...

Speed limits on public roads imo, and save the rest for circuit / strip etc etc , as you may be prepared to risk you licence and life on public roads but its the person you hit at the end of the day...

Haveing said that the average speed on the m1 seems to be 90mph these days, i personally do 70 or less because the car screms to much at the higher speeds for my likeing!

[babyalien]

obviously a hotly debated subject. didn't want people to fall out with each other. seems i've stirred up bit of a hornets nest. sorry guy's. thought it was an innocent enough question when i posted it. clearly i was wrong. :o . if its gonna allow everyone to shake hands and make friends again then its probably best deleted. meanwhile, i'll keep ducking the items people might want to throw at me :p . phew!!! guess i'll think a bit more before i post a subject up

[mick humphreys]

i agree that its dangerous on a busy road id only do it on an empty road

[Demessiah]

top speed is meaningless, I have a hill near me that goes on for a good few miles at a steep downhill.
If you can be bothered to keep your foot down long enough any car will do the max its gearbox will allow.
I once had 130 out of a 1.2 punto with 60 hp
That was years ago though, I dont really like speeding on the road anymore since my brother got sent down for 6mths for dangerous driving.
Not worth risking your freedom nevermind your life.

[peter86]

well i put my dap down when ever and where ever i like, there are times where you can and times when you cant. Someone said what if someone pulls out infront of you at 120mph? well if you are doing them speeds you should make sure you have an open road, so no1 will pull out?? as for blow outs? we all know they are a possibility, but if i thought of everything that could go wrong with my car when i was going fast, i would be too afraid to drive it do you think someone like peta solberg is thinking bout a blow out when he is drivin fast? lol hell no.The danger gives the adrenalineeveryone is entitled to their own opinion.. pure petrol heads lol. this was a harmless thread posted by babyalien, and has been savaged by people giving out the dont go fast lecturers, lol now its just a junk thread, brewing up arguments.

[timmy (the face) b]

Come on people - calm down... it's only the internet!

Speed is somthing that's a risk regardless of what number you apply to it. You can kill someone by hitting them at 20mph, just as much as you can at 120mph.

As Pete said, the thread was meant as a little bit of fun/banter just to see what people have done in their cars - it's not a classroom or a court, so there's no need to jump down people's throats!

[Robsparky]

i've done the factory stated top speed, on the speedo. Top speed is just as important as 0-60 and 1/4 times. LIGHTEN UP YOU LOT !

[Dobber Sport]

most ive had is 122mph on the limiter in 5th in a s1 rallye,. that was with 2 gps devices so pritty accurate

[Nick S]

my S1 was pooh for top speed. really struggled to get past 115mph on the clock unless i was on a motorway. then i hit 130mph with the S2 engine in and an indicated 147mph in the gti :)

[mick humphreys]

i've still not found a long enough bit of road to find my limiter in top which im quite glad of tbh! downhill (its ok when you know you've got the power to get there anyway you just get there quicker!) i can get round to near 140 on the clock but i reckon on the flat a genuine 130 is probably my tops. i do laugh when people get round to 150 in a vtr. maybe if it had 20" wheels and a really steep hil!

[Sam_M]

128mph at an airfield, had some more to go but it was creeping up slowley and dont like to be at such speed for that long!

[adz1987]

iv had the clock saying 130 in my s1 rallye but my mates xsi next to me said 136

[GijsH]

With my former black Rallye:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/GijsH/106%20xtreme%20meeting%20Utrecht/Meeting106-xtreme17-4-05033.jpg

With the new white Rallye I didn't test it, yet..

gr Gijs

[Atspeed Racing]

Got 130mph out of my S2 yesterday. I used the nitrous to get the last 10mph. Cant remember the revs. But i reckon off the clock could be done with the gas.

[Nick S]

iv had the clock saying 130 in my s1 rallye but my mates xsi next to me said 136

lol, your mates clock is wildly out then.

[bluepoxy]

off the clock and 131mph on road angel


Disclaimer,all speeds were acheived on private property yikes

[Daren S]

With my former black Rallye:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/GijsH/106%20xtreme%20meeting%20Utrecht/Meeting106-xtreme17-4-05033.jpg

With the new white Rallye I didn't test it, yet..

gr Gijs

If my oil temp ever got that high I'd be worrying.

[Nick S]

my oil temp has gone in the red once on my old rallye at the RR track session at FCS 04 :)

[Nick S]

oh yeah and this is my GTi.

http://file004.bebo.com/large/2005/12/13/09/16189589a97309044b808591621l.jpg

[TomH]

I got mine up to 3/4 on the track as well ;)