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Tom W
07-12-2006, 10:11 AM
ok guys and gals i have had a look into a group buy for newman cams for the 106 GTI/VTS.

I have been quoted a price per set of £300 which is not too bad anyway but they would be willing to do a group buy thus saving a few £££.
I live near to the factory i think so this would mean i can collect them saving a some money on delivery too.

I am waiting for a reply on how much we can get the cams for a group buy but £300 is cheaper than catcams. Newman cams are a very respectable business indeed and have been around since 1966.
There is always a lot of interest in catcams and here is your chance to buy a brand new set for a good price.

http://www.newman-cams.com/

http://www.newman-cams.com/pdf/peugeot.pdf

any one who might be interested please leave a post so we cna get this rolling and place a order.

Tom

Tom W
07-12-2006, 10:50 AM
Hello Tom

Prices as follows:-

5 Sets £225.00
10 Sets £200.00
15 Sets £175.00
All from new chilled iron blanks.

Plus VAT

Regrinds where applicable £175.00 Per Set

Regards
David Newman

So if we can get 15 [people interested thats £175 for a set of brand new cams!!!!!!:yikes: :yikes: :yikes:


even 5 people is still cheap.

wazzaracer
07-12-2006, 10:52 AM
quite possably matey but it wont be until the new year !

Tom W
07-12-2006, 10:54 AM
yeah i would imagine the new year would be better for most people. If we can organise this then could all have a nice new years present.

hrg
07-12-2006, 12:23 PM
what about 8v cams

Tom W
07-12-2006, 01:19 PM
I might look into this too see if we can get a deal with a combo of both 8v and 16v cams

they do make them so i cant see a problem

Tom W
07-12-2006, 04:06 PM
ok lads just asked him about the 8v cams

Prices for 4 Cylinder Cams

5 x Cams any 8 Valve Model £110.00
10 x Cams any 8 Valve Model £100.00
15 x Cams any 8 Valve Model £90.00
all Plus VAT

so there you go

axridder
07-12-2006, 05:00 PM
will be up for a set in the new year (16v)

Peter

L15TA J
07-12-2006, 05:09 PM
Definately interested in theses as I have been looking at these recently. They do a few sets mind you, so which cams would it be? They do a set with slightly morel ift and duration than catcams

Lewis
08-12-2006, 08:16 AM
Has anyone had these fitted before? What I mean is, is there any 'proof/results' that these cams work well on the 16v engine? I know they are good in fords but that's all i've heard of them!
Ta

geordie
08-12-2006, 11:37 AM
count me in
i will talk pauly dixon into getting some

Sadako
08-12-2006, 12:18 PM
put me down for an 8v cam but I want to know what spec it is or spec i can go for

Cyb3r
08-12-2006, 04:46 PM
do they make really wild cams? or scatter cams?? What deg and other info do you have?

Cyb3r
08-12-2006, 04:47 PM
also what about vernier pulleys?

quite interested if i can get something wild

nutty
08-12-2006, 06:17 PM
Are they as good as catcams?

ryan
08-12-2006, 10:43 PM
sounds good. i drive by newman cams most weeks. need to go in and have a chat to them at some point about some custom grinds on tbs :D

Tom W
09-12-2006, 04:11 PM
yeah they cna do any grinds i belive that he said any cams so i guess any type eg fast roads, race.

We need to start up a list i think of 8v and 16v.

i will email newmans again in the week to give more detail to them.

Cyb3r
09-12-2006, 07:15 PM
8v

miller
09-12-2006, 08:12 PM
Ill be interested in a set for the 16v next year but need spec of cams first though. And does any one know what these cams are like in our engines.

What time next year we talking as well

Thanks

Sadako
09-12-2006, 08:35 PM
8v for me

Freedo
09-12-2006, 08:58 PM
do they do cam pulleys as well?

geordie
10-12-2006, 09:42 AM
16v for me depending on spec

Tom W
10-12-2006, 10:47 AM
I dont know if they do pulley i dont think so, but better off emailing newmans yourself's.
As regards to profile have a look on the site.

if anyone wants to email newmans just say that Tom with the peugeot cam shaft group buy and ask for david and he will know.

Sadako
10-12-2006, 12:16 PM
Tom I think a nice fast road cam for me will do for a S1 Rallye Head

big eck
10-12-2006, 06:58 PM
Thats a fantastic price although I have never heard of them before, does anyone have any experiance with these and are they as good/realiable as the tried, tested and much sought after catcams???

mrorange2
10-12-2006, 08:19 PM
Thats a wicked price if you get the 16v for £175 you can 100% put my name down for them.

MartnLinz
11-12-2006, 07:29 AM
iam interested, will have to be in the new year tho.
What ones do they do that are close to catcam 708's/ piper 285's?????

Sadako
11-12-2006, 07:46 AM
check the pdf lads has all the cam profile etc there

axridder
11-12-2006, 10:39 AM
16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.


8v cams

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

mrorange2
11-12-2006, 04:47 PM
you can put my name down 4 the 16v ones

geordie
11-12-2006, 05:01 PM
16v ones mate add me to the list

Sadako
11-12-2006, 06:42 PM
16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.


8v cams

1. Sadako
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Cyb3r
11-12-2006, 06:49 PM
16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

mrorange2
11-12-2006, 06:55 PM
16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Tom W
13-12-2006, 01:51 PM
16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
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there is a lot of ineterest on the ssc about this deal but i think it will easier to deal with if all posts are done in this thread as it can be tracked easier rather than over two sites

ryan
14-12-2006, 12:09 AM
as there is alot of interest on 16v cams. do you know if there will be a better deal for numbers of 20,25+ etc...

Tom W
14-12-2006, 08:25 AM
yeah obviously the more we buy bteh cheaper... however is it actually posible to get 20+ people to come up with the cash is another thing.........

Sadako
14-12-2006, 12:26 PM
I am defo in for an 8v cam even with only 5 people it is still cheap by at least 50% over kent, piper and catcamss

Tom W
14-12-2006, 01:02 PM
surprised that we havent got more interest than this... as soon as a set of catcams go up for sale everyone goes mad, these cams are cheaper than second hand catcams

Alex Astall
14-12-2006, 06:39 PM
im interested in the 16v cams, not sure what profile would be best tho, very good prices tho!

hansthebear
14-12-2006, 07:06 PM
1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7.
8.
9.
10.


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

ryan_667
14-12-2006, 07:08 PM
If it's after the new year count me in

16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6.hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7.ryan_667 - " "
8.
9.
10.


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
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Tom W
14-12-2006, 07:17 PM
yes will definatly be after new year mid to end of jan. They will be the same as cat cams yes, you can decide how hight he lift you want too, which i dont think you cna do with cat cams?!?!

hansthebear
14-12-2006, 07:52 PM
i will be in for which ever ones will run with std throttle body, std lifters and springs etc, and will require no modifications for valve clearance.

the spec list confuses me :(

L15TA J
16-12-2006, 01:13 PM
Won't the longer duration of these cams kill the tirque on the TU 16v?

geordie
16-12-2006, 06:36 PM
16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6.hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7.ryan_667 - " "
8. geordiesaxo
9.
10.


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Hatton
17-12-2006, 03:16 PM
Looking at the 8v cams. I want one thats useable on the road, but I'd rather have the power band higher up than the Fast Road cam they produce.

My injection is standard so I couldn't use the tarmac sprint one (what modificiations would be required for this cam to be used?).

Do you know if there's an in-between cam?

Sadako
17-12-2006, 06:03 PM
16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up!:oops: )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6.hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7.ryan_667 - " "
8.
9.
10.


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

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Tom W
18-12-2006, 03:57 PM
I am sorry i dont know hatton?!?!
I am only organising it and dont know enough about cams profiles to go advising

sure there are many people on here who can tho

Sadako
18-12-2006, 05:45 PM
lads if yo need info about the newman cams go on the links tom has up tells you allt he profiles etc there

Ruffgeezer
18-12-2006, 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by geordiesaxo View Post
16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6.hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7.ryan_667 - " "
8.Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9.
10.


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

geordie
18-12-2006, 09:27 PM
sorry dude a bit slow on the up take at the mo lol:grin:

16Valver
19-12-2006, 04:32 PM
Ill have a set of the 16v in the new year, again, only if they are the same as 708's or similair

mrorange2
19-12-2006, 09:18 PM
Hi,

I have a few people from SAX-P interested in some cams but they cant get on here can i put there names down? Also when are you looking at ordering them?

Cheers

big eck
19-12-2006, 09:25 PM
Can some one please explain what these cams will do performance wise???

I have NO IDEA about lift, duration etc but was looking to buy catcam708s in the near future, do these cams offer the same gains as the catcams but are just loads cheaper???

Sorry for bein lame :lol:

Tom W
20-12-2006, 11:04 AM
hello,
- I agian dont know enough about cams to advise but i belive that if these cams have the same duration as the 708's then i guess they will be very similar!
- I will be looking at ordering in maybe end of jan depending upon people paying etc
- Yes you can put their names down, why cant they sign up its a FREE site.

Tom W
20-12-2006, 11:45 AM
UPDATE

These cams will take a week or two to be made and sent out
They can deliver the cams direct from teh factory to your house for £10+VAT which i think is quite good as it will be recorded delivery and this then saves time as its cuts out the middle man i.e me
They have given me a web site which use thier cams www.lioliosracing.gr there is a engilsh bit

as regards to power: as can be seen in a thread in the engine tuning section, cat cmas and newmans have the same duration, however newmans have a tiny bit less lift. So they will flow a bit less fuel air mixture but at half the price can you argue over 2-3bhp

mrorange2
20-12-2006, 01:38 PM
There alot of interest in the 16v cams on sax-p so could get a few more names for you some have tried to sign up but they get turned down?


16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6.hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7.ryan_667 - " "
8.Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9.ets2k9 from sax-p
10.


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

16Valver
20-12-2006, 03:13 PM
16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6.hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7.ryan_667 - " "
8.Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9.ets2k9 from sax-p
10.16valver = paul


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Colin
20-12-2006, 05:04 PM
16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6.hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7.ryan_667 - " "
8.Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9.ets2k9 from sax-p
10.16valver = paul
11. Colin


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Colin
20-12-2006, 05:18 PM
If we know what profile/ duration we want, how will we let you know? I.e. put the profile next to our name? Or will you PM us nearer the time of them being sold?

PezVTS
20-12-2006, 05:27 PM
16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6.hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7.ryan_667 - " "
8.Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9.ets2k9 from sax-p
10.16valver = paul
11. Colin
12. PezVTS from sax-p


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

ryan_667
20-12-2006, 07:43 PM
I notice there are a lot more variations of newman 16v cams on this site..

http://www.lioliosracing.gr/pdf/Newman/Peugeot.htm

Im gonna get in touch with them at some point to find out if the std injection will just limit performance on the fast road cam or if its a big no no, as ideally i want a slightly wilder cam than the "road cam" for my std 16v because of modifications i have planned in the future.

Otherwise i had best get saving for more modifying :)

andrewspencer2004
20-12-2006, 09:52 PM
16v cams

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6.hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7.ryan_667 - " "
8.Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9.ets2k9 from sax-p
10.16valver = paul
11. Colin
12. PezVTS from sax-p
13. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)

8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

mrorange2
21-12-2006, 07:42 AM
1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6.hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7.ryan_667 - " "
8.Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9.ets2k9 from sax-p
10.16valver = paul
11. Colin
12. PezVTS from sax-p
13. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)

8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Tom W
21-12-2006, 09:01 AM
on the link to the pdf that i gave, it says on the one above fast road, that you will need more than std injection.

when you send me a cheque just write a covering letter to go with it saying your name, username, address, car, engine adn what cam you want

RT358
21-12-2006, 04:36 PM
defo 16v set in the new year

RT358
21-12-2006, 04:40 PM
so will the 16v cam be ok to run on standard injection!

should of read sorry!!!

dannyh
21-12-2006, 11:44 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Count me in ill deffo have 16v off you in the new year
1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5.Tom21217
6.hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7.ryan_667 - " "
8.Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9.ets2k9 from sax-p
10.16valver = paul
11. Colin
12. PezVTS from sax-p
13. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
14.Dannyh

8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Tom W
22-12-2006, 04:11 PM
yes can run the fast road cam on std injection

I also found out that these prices are pretty near to cost price for newoo hoo wmans

leeroybrown
22-12-2006, 05:41 PM
Ill have a set of the 16v in the new year, again, only if they are the same as 708's or similair


:clap: :clap: :clap:

Colin
23-12-2006, 10:45 AM
1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p
12. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
13. Dannyh

8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

ets2k9 has decided to pull out due to other plans.

DanS116v
26-12-2006, 05:54 PM
1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p
12. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
13. Dannyh
14. pork_chop = dan lee (rr and ssc)

8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

defo up for a set of these depending on final price and numbers

hansthebear
27-12-2006, 01:33 AM
from what i can infer, "will not run on std injection" means "needs a remap", as opposed to "requires throttle bodies".

when is this going ahead?

leeroybrown
27-12-2006, 10:05 PM
put me down for the 16v ones

fordyvts
28-12-2006, 07:12 PM
1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p
12. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
13. Dannyh
14. pork_chop = dan lee (rr and ssc)
15. FordyVTS - Adam F
16. Leeroybrown

8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

leeroybrown
29-12-2006, 10:36 AM
IF WE GET MORE THEN 15 DOES THE PRICE GET ANY CHEAPER?

Sadako
29-12-2006, 10:48 AM
1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p
12. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
13. Dannyh
14. pork_chop = dan lee (rr and ssc)
15. FordyVTS - Adam F
16. Leeroybrown

8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5. Lex
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

:veryhappy:

Tom W
29-12-2006, 03:58 PM
15 cams are £175+ VAT+ £10 delivery= so i make that all in £225.60 if we sell 15 sets to your door for the 16v cams

Lex
29-12-2006, 10:10 PM
Just thought i'd drop in to confirm i'm definately in for an 8v cam.

Give me a bell when its all going down :)

dannyh
03-01-2007, 09:59 PM
A freind of mine whos not on the register wants the 8v so thats 6, like the other guy sais what if the list gets to 20 for the 16v cams, does it come down again! cheers
1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p
12. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
13. Dannyh
14. pork_chop = dan lee (rr and ssc)
15. FordyVTS - Adam F
16. Leeroybrown

8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5. Lex
6.gee
7.
8.
9.
10.

nassso
04-01-2007, 08:44 PM
Please put my name for 16v's cams. My name is Atanas Damyanov. Thank You.
Just tell me what i have to do to buy the cams.

mrorange2
05-01-2007, 08:19 AM
So when are you looking at taking payment for them then?

And as above if it goes over 20 for the 16V cams does price go down again?

Tom W
05-01-2007, 09:38 AM
No it doesnt get any cheaper, they ae doing it nearly at cost price so they wont do it any cheaper

is that everybody on the list definate???

wazzaracer
05-01-2007, 09:42 AM
No it doesnt get any cheaper, they ae doing it nearly at cost price so they wont do it any cheaper

is that everybody on the list definate???

Me and axridder are definate my freind although i may not have the money till the end of Jan, still catching up after Xmas ! lol

Tom W
05-01-2007, 09:59 AM
same here i am poor as a bint

wazzaracer
05-01-2007, 10:25 AM
same here i am poor as a bint

lol at least its not just me that is ! makes me feel a whole lot better ! i will send a cheque to you towards the end of jan if thats ok or would you prefer paypal ?

Peter R
05-01-2007, 11:29 AM
how close is there factory to camberky fella as i only live in woking and could pick mine a wazzaracers up

Peter

Tom W
05-01-2007, 11:52 AM
they are not in surrey about 45 miles away, their adress says farnbourg but they hare made in kent

mrorange2
05-01-2007, 04:57 PM
So when do you want payment mate? how much and where do we sent it to? Can we send it through paypal?

Cheers mate:veryhappy:

Tom W
05-01-2007, 10:11 PM
ok lads,
After reviewing my situation i dont think i cna afford to buy the cams for myself, i cant afford them at this time of the year with uni etc.

This does not mean the group buy is over i just can not buy them myself.

I am happy for someone to take over, i can forward all teh details i have to whoever, or i cna make it so that everything goes through Newmans ( ie send your money direct to them, with your name and adress etc.
Newmans have said that they can havea individual cheque from everyone and will post them out to each individual.

I can help however might want to take over, wazzaracer? sadako????

please dont think i have closed this or tried to fuck it up, i just cant afford to for may reasons.

really if anyone want to take control, not that hard to organise.


tom

boz
05-01-2007, 11:43 PM
A freind of mine whos not on the register wants the 8v so thats 6, like the other guy sais what if the list gets to 20 for the 16v cams, does it come down again! cheers
1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p
12. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
13. Dannyh
14. pork_chop = dan lee (rr and ssc)
15. FordyVTS - Adam F
16. Leeroybrown
17. Boz if the same/similar to 708s?? (when will this go ahead? im leaving to work in russia next week and wont be back until the 4th Feb)


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5. Lex
6.gee
7.
8.
9.
10.

mrorange2
06-01-2007, 10:12 AM
I'd be happy to take it over but if anyone else wants to do it they are welcome.

Up to you all.

wazzaracer
06-01-2007, 10:49 AM
think it might be easier if we all just deal with newmans direct if they are ok with that !

Sadako
06-01-2007, 10:51 AM
Well in all honesty I wouldnt mind the GB going ahead end of jan begin of feb maybe that will giveothers and yourself more time?

Tom W
06-01-2007, 11:31 AM
cheers lads.
mrorange2 if you want to i cna forward all the details i have to you.
even if it goes direct through newmans, might still be good to have a couple of people organising it.

i will call newmans in the week to see if we can go direct to them.
i imagine it will be fine as long as everybody send the money within 2 weeks say.

nassso
06-01-2007, 11:57 AM
Please put my name in the list for 16v cams.

Tom W
06-01-2007, 12:23 PM
we will have to check that newmasn are prepared to send to Bulgaria, i guess teh P&P will be more if they do

Cyb3r
06-01-2007, 01:07 PM
is this ever gonna go ahead? for 8v i mean

Tom W
06-01-2007, 01:11 PM
there is no reason why not. Just because i cant afford to buy teh cams for myself doesnt mean it wont go ahead. I will call newmans on monday to find out exactly what is going to happen and how.

nassso
06-01-2007, 04:15 PM
I already talk with them. They told that will ship to Bulgaria for 30£.

mrorange2
06-01-2007, 04:19 PM
Yeah Tom you can forward me the details the if we can go to newman direct then we'll all do that?

Luke S
06-01-2007, 05:09 PM
whats the crack then??

whens this gona be happening??

ryan_667
07-01-2007, 11:36 AM
If we all go seperately through newmans then surely there will be a set time period for everyone to have bought them by before the offer expires? I would have thought there will be a limited period else people could ring up months down the line and try and blag reductions.

belly_vts
07-01-2007, 03:00 PM
A freind of mine whos not on the register wants the 8v so thats 6, like the other guy sais what if the list gets to 20 for the 16v cams, does it come down again! cheers
1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p
12. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
13. Dannyh
14. pork_chop = dan lee (rr and ssc)
15. FordyVTS - Adam F
16. Leeroybrown
17. Boz if the same/similar to 708s?? (when will this go ahead? im leaving to work in russia next week and wont be back until the 4th Feb)
18. belly_vts from sax-p


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5. Lex
6.gee
7.
8.
9.
10.

Tom W
07-01-2007, 03:24 PM
they wqont make it anycheaper at 20 as they said it is near to cost price.

mrorange2
07-01-2007, 06:09 PM
Tom Has forwarded me the details so i'm happy to organise this if everyine else is happy?

James_vtr
07-01-2007, 06:09 PM
1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p
12. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
13. Dannyh
14. pork_chop = dan lee (rr and ssc)
15. FordyVTS - Adam F
16. Leeroybrown
17. Boz if the same/similar to 708s?? (when will this go ahead? im leaving to work in russia next week and wont be back until the 4th Feb)
18. belly_vts from sax-p


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5. Lex
6.gee
7. James_vtr (Salmon1 on sax-p)
8.
9.
10.

doogz
07-01-2007, 06:20 PM
is there still time to sign up for some 16v cams?

mrorange2
07-01-2007, 06:25 PM
Yeah Mate

doogz
07-01-2007, 06:30 PM
groovy

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p
12. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
13. Dannyh
14. pork_chop = dan lee (rr and ssc)
15. FordyVTS - Adam F
16. Leeroybrown
17. Boz if the same/similar to 708s?? (when will this go ahead? im leaving to work in russia next week and wont be back until the 4th Feb)
18. belly_vts from sax-p
19. Doogz


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5. Lex
6.gee
7. James_vtr (Salmon1 on sax-p)
8.
9.
10.

mrorange2
08-01-2007, 07:38 AM
Would people be happy getting this group buy under way the week starting 22/01/07?????

doogz
08-01-2007, 08:35 AM
sounds good

wazzaracer
08-01-2007, 12:03 PM
Dude any chance you could mate it the week after as i have no money till payday at the end of the month ! im sure i am not the only one !

Sadako
08-01-2007, 12:10 PM
I say end of the month or begin of feb is best

mrorange2
08-01-2007, 01:15 PM
Okay then shall we say the week starting 29/01/2007 which will go through to start of feb?

wazzaracer
08-01-2007, 02:52 PM
Okay then shall we say the week starting 29/01/2007 which will go through to start of feb?

Sounds good to me mate, you want us to send you cheques ?

mrorange2
08-01-2007, 03:00 PM
Just got an e-mail from them what i need is you to send me a cheque made out to Newman Cams with a cover letter with your name, address, username, and what cam you want then send it to me i'll give you my address closer to the time as dont want any early bird lol.

Sadako
08-01-2007, 03:15 PM
so basically we send the spec of cam we want, addy we want ti sent to and cheque to newman cams and you send them all off in big pile to them?

mrorange2
08-01-2007, 05:22 PM
Basically yeah.

wazzaracer
08-01-2007, 06:00 PM
Cool thats fine with me matey, just post up your address when you want us to post them to you !

boz
08-01-2007, 11:44 PM
im off to russia working from tomorrow until 2nd feb :(

mrorange2
09-01-2007, 07:52 AM
If you send it off when you get back could prob wait till got it mate? You back on the friday then?

doogz
09-01-2007, 12:00 PM
oh, and on a sine not, i refuse to believe the 106 rallye on that greek website is making 175bhp with a standard manifold and panel filter, even with cams

Spudley84
09-01-2007, 11:40 PM
groovy

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p
12. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
13. Dannyh
14. pork_chop = dan lee (rr and ssc)
15. FordyVTS - Adam F
16. Leeroybrown
17. Boz if the same/similar to 708s?? (when will this go ahead? im leaving to work in russia next week and wont be back until the 4th Feb)
18. belly_vts from sax-p
19. Doogz


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5. Lex
6.gee
7. James_vtr (Salmon1 on sax-p)
8.
9.
10.

nassso
10-01-2007, 06:20 AM
Don't forget about me. If they are ok with shipping to Bulgaria i would like to take some cams too.

mrorange2
10-01-2007, 07:30 AM
Don't forget about me. If they are ok with shipping to Bulgaria i would like to take some cams too.

I'll ask them if its okay and get you a price mate.

If every one on the list pays yeah it will be 175 + Vat + 10 Delivery which is about £225 to your door.

mrorange2
10-01-2007, 02:22 PM
A little bit of info on the 16v cams if you cant pick which to get The Phase1 cam will run with the Std ECU but will work better with a standalone ECU. if you are going to fit a stand alone ECU The Phase 3 cam will rev out higher giving more power at this range.and can be programmed to give the same low down Power as the Phase 1 Cam.

ryan_667
10-01-2007, 05:50 PM
I was thinking of remapping the standard ecu and going for the phase two, but it looks like from what you've found that the phase1 is the way to go.

I think im right in saying that on the whole the catcam 708s characteristics come somewhere between the phase one and phase two cams i think upon a quick comparison.

leeroybrown
10-01-2007, 09:46 PM
can payment only be made by cheque or is there other means, suck as credit card etc

DanS116v
10-01-2007, 10:19 PM
very confused on what cams to get now?!!!

im will be running gti engine
wrapped raceland 4-2-1
pugsport 2"
lightened & balanced flywheel
port polished head
s1 rallye gearbox
green enclosed induction kit:steer:
(remap on standard ECU)

i want a fast road spec with around 285 degrees lift like pipers and 708's

what is going to be best??

Peter R
10-01-2007, 10:48 PM
very confused on what cams to get now?!!!

im will be running gti engine
wrapped raceland 4-2-1
pugsport 2"
lightened & balanced flywheel
port polished head
s1 rallye gearbox
green enclosed induction kit:steer:
(remap on standard ECU)

i want a fast road spec with around 285 degrees lift like pipers and 708's

what is going to be best??


i have rougly same spec so i have the same question what is best to go for either remap or stand alone i dont have that deeper pockets at the moment

Peter

leeroybrown
11-01-2007, 08:47 AM
Are the newmans 285's the same as the cat cam 708's ?

mrorange2
11-01-2007, 09:12 AM
Sorry but cheque is the only payment.

I also have around the same setup and i'm getting PH3 cams you you should be okay with a remap of the standard ECU with this cam as its is around the same spec as the Catcam 708 If you after a good tick over and a good allround balance of improvement get the PH1 but if your after more power and more mid to high range power go for the PH3 as the rev limiter can be raised to about 7500rpm on this cam.

If your going to get a remap of the standard ECU or running a standalone system i would go for a PH3 but its tottaly up to you guys.

This is the Part no PEU106/264/400 PH3

leeroybrown
11-01-2007, 11:00 AM
And will the PH3 idle and ticker over correctly

leeroybrown
11-01-2007, 01:38 PM
always says on there website that the ph3 will not run on standard injection

mrorange2
11-01-2007, 01:45 PM
They mean it needs a remap liek the catcam 708s and it will idle heavy. As i said its up to you guys what you want in the end. All depends on how your going to use the car if its only road use no track days or anything they advised me on PH1 if you go on track days ot use it as a track car PH3

rob_pryth
11-01-2007, 05:57 PM
Be rude not to...

1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren
3. magpieman (geordiesaxo sorry I thought you'd pick that one up! )
4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p
12. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
13. Dannyh
14. pork_chop = dan lee (rr and ssc)
15. FordyVTS - Adam F
16. Leeroybrown
17. Boz if the same/similar to 708s?? (when will this go ahead? im leaving to work in russia next week and wont be back until the 4th Feb)
18. belly_vts from sax-p
19. Doogz


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5. Lex
6.gee
7. James_vtr (Salmon1 on sax-p)
8. rob_pryth
9.
10.

Peter R
11-01-2007, 07:52 PM
where is good for a remap and what sort of money should i look to pay i meet the guys from newmans cams today at the autosport show at NEC really nicec guys they may be able to sort out a deal on pullys to match but i aid i would sort that with him soon . just really wanna no a price on a remap

Peter

mrorange2
11-01-2007, 08:46 PM
You dont need pullys on the 16v engines as they have adjustable pulleys as standard.

I have been qouted £400 for a full live remap on a rolling road by wayne at chipwizards in manchester he knows what hes doing.

DanS116v
12-01-2007, 10:41 AM
looks like it will be the PH3 then (almost same spec as 708's)....

i take we send you:

our name
address
forum name
cams wanted
money!!

anything else??

thanks for the advise as well fellas!!:steer:

mrorange2
12-01-2007, 12:00 PM
looks like it will be the PH3 then (almost same spec as 708's)....

i take we send you:

our name
address
forum name
cams wanted
money!!

anything else??

thanks for the advise as well fellas!!:steer:


Thats right mate make cheques out to Newman Cams

belly_vts
12-01-2007, 08:34 PM
do ya reckon the ph2 cams will be alright for everyday road use? aswell as the occasional track day?

mrorange2
13-01-2007, 02:10 PM
do ya reckon the ph2 cams will be alright for everyday road use? aswell as the occasional track day?

Yeah as long as you get the ecu remapped mate thats what i'm using it for.

DanS116v
14-01-2007, 12:14 PM
just been on the newmans website and found the ph2 cams
which are fast road apparantly which is what i think will be best suited to me.
only going to be used on the road and straightline now and again

roll on feb 1st!!! :steer: :veryhappy: :steer:

nassso
14-01-2007, 06:17 PM
What happend with me? Did you check for me? Because i also want to join in.

Colin
15-01-2007, 09:24 AM
Major edit there, I did take my name off but I changed my mind!

geordie
15-01-2007, 04:53 PM
1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren

4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p
12. andrewspencer2004 (axoc)
13. Dannyh
14. pork_chop = dan lee (rr and ssc)
15. FordyVTS - Adam F
16. Leeroybrown
17. Boz if the same/similar to 708s?? (when will this go ahead? im leaving to work in russia next week and wont be back until the 4th Feb)
18. belly_vts from sax-p
19. Doogz


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5. Lex
6.gee
7. James_vtr (Salmon1 on sax-p)
8. rob_pryth
9.
10.


i cant join in this one as i have decided to sell the saxo and buy a rallye sorry people:(

mrorange2
15-01-2007, 08:48 PM
Right I could do with a 100% definate List so we know the price will be as alot of people seem to be pulling out so I'll start it off

16v
1. Mrorange2



8v

Lex
15-01-2007, 09:07 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2



8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako

belly_vts
15-01-2007, 10:10 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts


8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako

DanS116v
15-01-2007, 10:46 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop


8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako


come on people dont let this offer go down the crapper

nassso
16-01-2007, 06:34 AM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)

8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako

Colin
16-01-2007, 01:25 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin

8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako

PezVTS
16-01-2007, 05:45 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin
6. PezVTS

8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako

rob_pryth
16-01-2007, 05:57 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin
6. PezVTS

8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3.rob_pryth

rob_pryth
16-01-2007, 07:05 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin
6. PezVTS
7.ryan_667- 2 sets


8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3.rob_pryth

fordyvts
16-01-2007, 10:58 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin
6. PezVTS
7.ryan_667- 2 sets
8. FordyVTS


8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3.rob_pryth

ryan_667
17-01-2007, 05:14 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin
6. PezVTS
7.ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
8. FordyVTS


8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3.rob_pryth

Cyb3r
17-01-2007, 05:59 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin
6. PezVTS
7.ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
8. FordyVTS


8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3.rob_pryth
4.Cyb3r

wazzaracer
17-01-2007, 06:22 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin
6. PezVTS
7.ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
8. FordyVTS
9. Wazzaracer

8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3.rob_pryth
4.Cyb3r

andrewspencer2004
20-01-2007, 12:40 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin
6. PezVTS
7.ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
8. FordyVTS
9. Wazzaracer
10. andrewspencer2004

8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3.rob_pryth
4.Cyb3r

wazzaracer
20-01-2007, 09:17 PM
Sorry guys guna have to leave it, moving house etc havent really got the money
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin
6. PezVTS
7.ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
8. FordyVTS
9. andrewspencer2004

8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3.rob_pryth
4.Cyb3r

Daren S
20-01-2007, 09:30 PM
How about 206 XSi (TU5JP4) 16v cams, can they be got and for the same price?

doogz
21-01-2007, 09:07 AM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin
6. PezVTS
7.ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
8. FordyVTS
9. andrewspencer2004
10. Doogz

8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3.rob_pryth
4.Cyb3r

cranaz
21-01-2007, 09:09 AM
im interested in 8v but what cam are people getting for 8v, ph2 or ph3, sorry for late interest but any 1 sure what gains will be made over standard rallye cam?;)

Lex
21-01-2007, 01:19 PM
I'm after a PH2 cam for a 1297 head. Heard there are piston clearance issues with a PH3 and the need for TB's or at least standalone if you want it to run half decent.

More than happy to be proved wrong, i'd love a PH3 if i knew it was viable :)

cranaz
21-01-2007, 03:48 PM
is the ph2 gonna be much different to standard 1.6 rallye cam though? possible to run ph3 with just breathing mods and remap?

Lex
21-01-2007, 04:53 PM
I was speaking to Sadako and were reckoning on roughly a 7-8% increase in power with the PH2. This is a total guess going by what we've seen before so don't take this as red, but in anyones book it ain't a massive increase.

But if its all the engine can take then that's the price for pay for being a skint flint who won't by forged pistons like me.

Time to go find someone who can say whether the PH3 will work as i want one :D

L15TA J
21-01-2007, 05:13 PM
So are the 16v people buying the 'fast road' cam or the 'tarmac sprint' cam?

Also what exactly is meant by 'will not run on std injection'?

mrorange2
22-01-2007, 08:09 AM
So are the 16v people buying the 'fast road' cam or the 'tarmac sprint' cam?

Also what exactly is meant by 'will not run on std injection'?


I'm getting the fast road cam as the tarmac sprint one is for throttle bodies.

And 'will not run on std injection' means you will need a remap to your fueling is correct because if you dont it wil start pinking on you and you can say bye bye to your engine lol.

hansthebear
23-01-2007, 12:51 AM
whats the need in another list? :S

16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin
6. PezVTS
7.ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
8. FordyVTS
9. andrewspencer2004
10. Doogz
11. hansthebear

8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3.rob_pryth
4.Cyb3r

DanS116v
23-01-2007, 10:53 AM
the need for this list mate is to find who 100% wants in on this deal so that
we can get a deffinate price for all the people really wanting them and get rid
of all the dreamers.

spank me if im wrong mrorange2

Lex
23-01-2007, 04:15 PM
Speaking of which where are the other 8v people. Seem down on numbers :confused:

Cyb3r
23-01-2007, 06:11 PM
i might have to buy 2 to bring up the numbers :P

Daren S
23-01-2007, 06:32 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. Colin
6. PezVTS
7. ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
8. FordyVTS
9. andrewspencer2004
10. Doogz
11. hansthebear
12. Daren S (Once I can have PEU206/264/342 PH3)

8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3. rob_pryth
4. Cyb3r

mrorange2
23-01-2007, 09:07 PM
the need for this list mate is to find who 100% wants in on this deal so that
we can get a deffinate price for all the people really wanting them and get rid
of all the dreamers.

spank me if im wrong mrorange2

Bang on its because the ammount of people who actually didnt want them was quite alot so need a 100% deffo list so i know whe price of them no good saying its the 15+ people price when people pull out making it below 15 then people will have to resend cheques etc. Few more people and we got the lower price come on people dont miss out.

I'll have to ask bout the 206 cam mate.

Cyb3r
23-01-2007, 09:54 PM
if this dont take place soon i'll have to back out aswell

ryan
23-01-2007, 11:48 PM
when you next speak to newmans, can you get some better info on the tarmac spec 280 cams please dude, want to see what power they estimate and torque on 16v bodied engine. and what other engine mods will be needed for them

if its good reading count me in.

Lex
24-01-2007, 12:01 AM
As above when you speak to newmans could you ask them if the 288 degrees cam will fit without piston mods in an 8v lump, would be much appreciated.

Cheers for sorting this all, just need another 8v hooligan to sign up....

mrorange2
24-01-2007, 07:21 AM
if this dont take place soon i'll have to back out aswell

I'll be starting to collect money on friday once i have full numbers and i'll ask newmans about the two questions above.

Cheers

mrorange2
24-01-2007, 09:56 AM
Been in contact with Newman and have the following info for you guys.

Darren
Yes you can order the 206 cam in the group buy it will count as a 16V one.

Ryan
Newman don’t give power or torque figures other wise you end up in a pit pony race, But

with throttle bodies ECU and Exhaust system you should be looking at around 18%

increase.

Lex
The 288 cam will not require piston work but check with blue tack on the piston to

ensure a minimum of 1mm clearance on the exhaust valve.

Lex
24-01-2007, 01:32 PM
Cheers for that morange, looks like i'll have the big bastid cam.

Where do i send the money :D

Colin
24-01-2007, 06:38 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. PezVTS
6. ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
7. FordyVTS
8. andrewspencer2004
9. Doogz
10. hansthebear
11. Daren S (Once I can have PEU206/264/342 PH3)

8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3. rob_pryth
4. Cyb3r

Im gonna have to pull out guys. Really sorry. My engine rebuild after me blowing it up is costing me mega bucks after bending a few valves etc.

I was really looking forward to these too.

Hope everything goes smoothly!

mrorange2
24-01-2007, 07:47 PM
oh well sorry to hear it bud

dannyh
24-01-2007, 08:09 PM
For deffo boys count me in

16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. PezVTS
6. ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
7. FordyVTS
8. andrewspencer2004
9. Doogz
10. hansthebear
11. Daren S (Once I can have PEU206/264/342 PH3)
12. dannyh
8v
1. Lex
2. Sadako
3. rob_pryth
4. Cyb3r
5. gee

mrorange2
24-01-2007, 08:22 PM
Come on boys only 3 more on the 16V ones get ya mates to buy some!!!!!!

DanS116v
24-01-2007, 10:16 PM
have all the people on ssc and sax p been pm'd

3!!!! so close yet so far!!

Lex
25-01-2007, 02:14 AM
gee your a hero to all 8 valvers out there

:veryhappy:

doogz
25-01-2007, 07:02 AM
why does the sprint/tarmac rally cam require throttle bodies?

i mean, does it really need them?

mrorange2
25-01-2007, 07:44 AM
why does the sprint/tarmac rally cam require throttle bodies?

i mean, does it really need them?


I dont know on this one mate they told me it require them i believe its because it needs more air than the standard throttle bodie can give it.

I've told everyone on Sax-P and SSC but no one else has signed up come on lads tell ya friends etc lets get 3 more.

mrorange2
25-01-2007, 10:13 AM
For your information i will be starting to collect money fron this weekend so will need to know the full numbers by friday night at lastest really below are the prices so car as it stands 3 more people on the 16V cams and we get them for the lower one!!!!!

Prices Including VAT and UK postage, Signed delivery as Follows:-

5 x 8 Valve Cams £141.00

10 x 16 Valve Cams £246.75

15 x 16 Valve Cams £217.37

NASSO your will be + an extra £25 on top of the above for postage out of UK by registered air mail.

doogz
25-01-2007, 10:30 AM
so unless you go for throttle bodies, only the standard road and fast road cams are any use?

greenpug
25-01-2007, 11:25 AM
So all the orders for the 16v engines 106 are for the Fast Road cams?

Anything else needs to be changed?
Do they produce similar performance as the Cat Cams 708?

Cheers.

furthermore i found the following catalogue as well for Newmans.
It is through the website of the retailer of Newmans in Greece.
It seems there are more options there for the 1.6 16v 106 Gti engine

http://www.lioliosracing.gr/pdf/Newman/Peugeot.htm

mrorange2
25-01-2007, 02:28 PM
So all the orders for the 16v engines 106 are for the Fast Road cams?

Anything else needs to be changed?
Do they produce similar performance as the Cat Cams 708?

Cheers.

furthermore i found the following catalogue as well for Newmans.
It is through the website of the retailer of Newmans in Greece.
It seems there are more options there for the 1.6 16v 106 Gti engine

http://www.lioliosracing.gr/pdf/Newman/Peugeot.htm

Yes will give same sort of power as the catcams and you can run on standard internals just need a remap.

GT3
25-01-2007, 05:10 PM
Stick me down for a set of the PH3 16v ones if you can get them for the cheaper price!

From ssc but for some reason the site wont let me on! Says Bad IP or summit!!

Sadako
25-01-2007, 05:54 PM
that is like £30 odd more than what was originally quoted, and I assume the original price was VAT inc? deliveyr should be that much

Lex
25-01-2007, 06:08 PM
£141 checks out Gav.

By my maths its £139.25 but given £110 exclusive of VAT was probably a rough figure its all dead on.

mrorange2
25-01-2007, 07:46 PM
All prices i have quoted are all plus vat and delivery the original ones where not i have even confirmed them with newman.

As said need to know whos deffo in so last chance to pull out or get in.

GT3
26-01-2007, 12:35 AM
deffo in at £217

greenpug
26-01-2007, 04:24 AM
Might be interested as well if the 217 price is achieved for the 16v ones.

Could you find out how much extra delivery to Cyprus would cost mate?

Cheers.

doogz
26-01-2007, 06:56 AM
217!

fucking bargain!

DanS116v
26-01-2007, 10:41 AM
if gt3 and greenpug are in for the 16v cams then that leaves one person left to get the price of £217! bargain

mrorange2
26-01-2007, 12:36 PM
Might be interested as well if the 217 price is achieved for the 16v ones.

Could you find out how much extra delivery to Cyprus would cost mate?

Cheers.

Delivery to Cyprus will be £35 i believe mate today is the last day if we dont get 15 on the 16V i'll have to cut it off at 12 so we can get the cheques sent out.

belly_vts
26-01-2007, 03:58 PM
if we get the 15 people for the 16v ones then ill not be backin out

GT3
26-01-2007, 05:28 PM
Me neither!

mrorange2
26-01-2007, 07:17 PM
right we need one more person for 15 and at the mo that dont look like its gunna happen so if people want to back please do now!!! i made the second list so we knew who was 100% if you wasnt then you shouldnt have put ya name down if not at 15 by tomorrow then i'll start collecting at the price for 10 cams.

Sadako
26-01-2007, 10:37 PM
I am out had a tyre blow out earlier and it has totally cunted my wheel, tyre and front wing. Shame you can not hold off for any longer 8v wise start job in 2 weeks on good money aswell

Johanschaap
26-01-2007, 10:54 PM
right we need one more person for 15 and at the mo that dont look like its gunna happen so if people want to back please do now!!! i made the second list so we knew who was 100% if you wasnt then you shouldnt have put ya name down if not at 15 by tomorrow then i'll start collecting at the price for 10 cams.

If it is possible to get the cams in the netherlands i would be intrested in the 16V cams !

(i would be the 15't person than i guess ?).

Lex
26-01-2007, 11:38 PM
Looks like 8v is down on numbers. Can 16v still go ahead whilst 8v waits 2 weeks or should i start looking elsewhere?

greenpug
27-01-2007, 06:24 AM
Delivery to Cyprus will be £35 i believe mate today is the last day if we dont get 15 on the 16V i'll have to cut it off at 12 so we can get the cheques sent out.

so whats the new price for me if have one set and we get the 217 price mate.
How much delivery within UK that price includes?

cheers.

mrorange2
27-01-2007, 08:45 AM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. PezVTS
6. ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
7. FordyVTS
8. andrewspencer2004
9. Doogz
10. hansthebear
11. Daren S (Once I can have PEU206/264/342 PH3)
12. dannyh


8v
1. Lex
2. rob_pryth
3. Cyb3r
4. gee

this is the list ive got now please add yourself today if you wish to join, or if you dont wanna go ahead please re-post the list without your name on....

if there isnt 5 for the eight valve cams it cannot go ahead.

shipping outside of the uk is £35...so greenpug just add £25 on top of the final price.

DanS116v
27-01-2007, 09:33 AM
if all the people that are waiting for the 15 16v cams put their name down we would have 15 people!!

put your names down then the numbers would add up...

rob_pryth
27-01-2007, 03:08 PM
So are the 8v cams still happening? If so will the price change with less than 5 being ordered.

mrorange2
27-01-2007, 03:47 PM
for the 8v to go ahead we need 5 people unfortunately

belly_vts
27-01-2007, 04:24 PM
:cry: so it hasnt made the 15 people then? sorry lads, gonna have to back out if its at the 10 people price

mrorange2
27-01-2007, 04:31 PM
if all the people who said they would be in at 217 confirmed then we would have 15 !

GT3
27-01-2007, 06:23 PM
16v
1. Mrorange2
2. belly_vts
3. pork chop
4. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
5. PezVTS
6. ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
7. FordyVTS
8. andrewspencer2004
9. Doogz
10. hansthebear
11. Daren S (Once I can have PEU206/264/342 PH3)
12. dannyh
13. GT3

Come on 2 more!!

belly_vts
27-01-2007, 06:59 PM
why not try and pm or email some people that was on the list before, to warn them theres another list, :D might get the 15 then

rob_pryth
28-01-2007, 05:26 PM
Come on 8v'ers!

Lex
28-01-2007, 05:30 PM
As above ^^^

I fancy saving £60. Time to send out some PM's Rob ;)

belly_vts
29-01-2007, 12:26 AM
how much exactly will the 16v ones be for the 10 people price? with delivery and vat?

mrorange2
29-01-2007, 06:23 AM
10 x 16 Valve Cams £246.75


the above price is inclusive of everything as i quoted on the previous page...:D

mrorange2
29-01-2007, 07:26 AM
Really dont look like we will get the 15 people for the lowest price on the 16V cams but still its cheap at that price so i'll stop to 16V cams at 12/13 so all people on the list for the 16v cams can you send me a cheque made payable to Newman Cams £246.75 and send it to me at:

Tim Rose,
23 Beesby Road
Ridding,
Scunthorpe,
North Linc,
DN17 2EG

I need a cover letter with:
Name:
Address:
Username:
What Cam You Want:

For the 8v we will need another 1 person to make this happen if you can find one before mid week then i'm happy for that to still go ahead. If get all cheques in this week will hopefully get them posted recored on friday.

belly_vts
29-01-2007, 06:30 PM
when saying what cam we want, is '16valve ph3' ok? or do we have to put the duration and all that?

mrorange2
29-01-2007, 06:44 PM
if possible could you put the whole thing, just so everythings crystal clear an no cock ups happen !

cheers

andrewspencer2004
29-01-2007, 09:34 PM
[QUOTE=geordie;358716]1. axridder = Peter
2. wazzaracer = warren

4. mrorange2 = Tim
5. Tom21217
6. hansthebear - only if similar to 708's and pt51's
7. ryan_667 - " "
8. Ruffgeezer: TimL similar requests to what hansthebear said up there.
9. 16valver = paul
10. Colin
11. PezVTS from sax-p

13. Dannyh
14. pork_chop = dan lee (rr and ssc)
15. FordyVTS - Adam F
16. Leeroybrown
17. Boz if the same/similar to 708s?? (when will this go ahead? im leaving to work in russia next week and wont be back until the 4th Feb)
18. belly_vts from sax-p
19. Doogz


8v cams

1. Sadako
2. Cyb3r
3. jgjones095
4. saxo_vtr1234 from sax-p
5. Lex
6.gee
7. James_vtr (Salmon1 on sax-p)
8. rob_pryth
9.
10.


i', gonna have to bail aswell lads, REALLY SORRY but somethings happended today which has forcded me to pull out, again really sorry lads

mrorange2
30-01-2007, 07:24 AM
Okay mate well that will leave us with about 11/12 so lets get the cheques coming in and see where we are once got them.

mrorange2
30-01-2007, 10:45 AM
Forgot to say if you need the cams sending over seas please add an extra £25 on top of the price so it will be £271.75

Thanks

mrorange2
30-01-2007, 10:50 AM
[QUOTE=mrorange2;364572]16v
1. Mrorange2
2. pork chop
3. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
4. PezVTS
5. ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
6. FordyVTS
7. Mystic
8. Doogz
9. hansthebear
10. Daren S (Once I can have PEU206/264/342 PH3)
11. dannyh


8v
1. Lex
2. rob_pryth
3. Cyb3r
4. gee
QUOTE]

Thats the list i have so need 1 more for the 8V to go ahead.

nassso
30-01-2007, 11:06 AM
Is there some way for me pay with bank transfer because it will take long time for me to send a check.

mrorange2
30-01-2007, 11:14 AM
Is there some way for me pay with bank transfer because it will take long time for me to send a check.

I dont really know only thing i could do is have you transfer it to me and i'll write a cheque for both of ours. How long will it take to send a cheque recored mail?

nassso
30-01-2007, 11:21 AM
I don't know but it will take more than a week for sure. It will be more easy to make a transfer. Is it possible to ask them if i can transfer the money to their bank account they count it to the group buy.

mrorange2
30-01-2007, 11:25 AM
I'll have to ask them i'll get back to you mate.

belly_vts
30-01-2007, 02:21 PM
it ok if i join the list again? decided that 246quid is still a mint deal lol,

mrorange2
30-01-2007, 02:45 PM
Yeah mate cause you can and yeah its a GREAT deal.

1. Mrorange2
2. pork chop
3. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
4. PezVTS
5. ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
6. FordyVTS
7. Mystic
8. Doogz
9. hansthebear
10. Daren S (Once I can have PEU206/264/342 PH3)
11. dannyh
12. bellyvts

8v
1. Lex
2. rob_pryth
3. Cyb3r
4. gee

rob_pryth
30-01-2007, 04:54 PM
Is there any chance that the 8v's can go ahead with 4?????? I need this at the price!

mrorange2
30-01-2007, 06:02 PM
Is there any chance that the 8v's can go ahead with 4?????? I need this at the price!

The min is five mate sorry you only need to find one more.

GT3
30-01-2007, 10:27 PM
I'm in still!! Will post a cheque out on friday if thats alright?

1. Mrorange2
2. pork chop
3. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
4. PezVTS
5. ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
6. FordyVTS
7. Mystic
8. Doogz
9. hansthebear
10. Daren S (Once I can have PEU206/264/342 PH3)
11. dannyh
12. bellyvts
13. GT3

doogz
31-01-2007, 06:47 AM
i don't get paid til a week today, so i'll post a cheque on friday as well

mrorange2
31-01-2007, 08:04 AM
Fridays fine lads i'll wait till got them all till i send them off.

belly_vts
31-01-2007, 05:35 PM
;) cheques in the post

Wallace86
01-02-2007, 06:05 AM
Can i join last min, just read this thread what a good price.
I will get the money sent asap.

1. Mrorange2
2. pork chop
3. nassso(if they ship to Bulgaria)
4. PezVTS
5. ryan_667- just one set now- made a mistake in asking for someone else aswell, sorry.
6. FordyVTS
7. Mystic
8. Doogz
9. hansthebear
10. Daren S (Once I can have PEU206/264/342 PH3)
11. dannyh
12. bellyvts
13. GT3
14: Wallace86

mrorange2
01-02-2007, 07:33 AM
Yeah mate read above where to send money.

DanS116v
01-02-2007, 03:28 PM
get paid friday morning and then cheque will be in the post! cant wait :steer:

what happens if 1 more person gets 16v cams does mean we have to send another cheque or will newmans just send back the £30 in cheque with the cams, just wondered seens that were only one off 15 people.

Wallace86
01-02-2007, 04:22 PM
What would happen if we hit the 15, as i would take two sets if we could get them at the lower price. Please let me know asap.

greenpug
01-02-2007, 04:38 PM
Has anyone tried this brand?

Any rolling road results on this 16v engine?

In terms of wear and tear of the engine?

I may raise a loan on Monday for other things as well so may still enter this for the lower price. However i do not want to raise any hopes up

Cheers.

mrorange2
01-02-2007, 06:43 PM
Right at the moment i only have one cheque from belly_vts so i dont see a problem id Belly_vts is okay and we hit 15 tonight or tomorrow that i'll collect at the lowest price but it also means if i dont get 15 cheques in my hand then i'll have to send them all back and get new ones sent again so up to you guys.

Wallace86
01-02-2007, 09:34 PM
Are all the cam profiles quoted on the liolios racing site available or is it just the profiles quoted on the newmans website??

nassso
02-02-2007, 05:51 AM
They are the same profiles. What they did is changed the duration of the exhaust camshaft from 264 degrees to 256 and the cam lifting.