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Jon
03-08-2008, 09:42 PM
I thought it was about time I put up a progress thread of my project. I've been doing Land Rover based rallying for a few years now and have been wanting to start stage rallying for a long time. I know 106's well and I've got lots of spare parts so it was a logical step.

I bought a car to go rallying in a while ago, but it wasn't really feasable being at Uni at the same time.

Rather than buying a complete car I decided to build it up myself to how I wanted it.

I'd had my eyes open for the right car for a while and eventually this car popped up. It's been well used but it's got a good cage in. On the negative side, it's been brush painted at least twice, once being blue and yellow and then back to white over the top. The front of the roof where it joins the windscreen was rusty. I'd never seen rust like that before, but the rest of the car is pretty much rust free. The plan is a new roof skin.

It's not the tidiest car I've owned, but then it is a first rallycar. It should look a lot tidier when painted, but it'd be a shame to rally a perfect condition one.

A few photos:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/jonambler/whiterallye/DSC05856800x600.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/jonambler/whiterallye/DSC05854800x600.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/jonambler/whiterallye/DSC05855800x600.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/jonambler/whiterallye/DSC05858800x600.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/jonambler/whiterallye/DSC05859800x600.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/jonambler/whiterallye/DSC05860800x600.jpg

The plan:

Repaint in white
Rebuild a gearbox with a Gripper LSD
Run a standard 1300 Rallye engine, rebuilt
Some new decent seats and belts.


That's it for now, will update on the progress so far soon.

Jon

Cyb3r
03-08-2008, 09:51 PM
not a 16v Jon????????!!!?!?!?!

kiwi
04-08-2008, 12:14 AM
Looks like sparco cage!?????

Jon
04-08-2008, 07:34 AM
No 16v for starters Dean, I want it to compete in the under 1400's class. It'd be nice to build a 1400 16v eventually, but I'll stick with standard for now.

It's not a sparco cage. It's a bespoke cage. Custom cages rings a bell. I've got the paperwork for it at home so I'll have a look

Jon

kiwi
04-08-2008, 01:14 PM
Im in the middle of building my s1 now for next season. When you planing on being ready?

hank_marvinson
04-08-2008, 06:11 PM
cool to see you're back in a 106 jon, looks a nice interest.

L15TA J
04-08-2008, 06:31 PM
Will be a cool project. Glad to see a rallye being used for a good purpose

Cyb3r
04-08-2008, 06:50 PM
i'm disappointed Jon :p

Dave P
04-08-2008, 07:49 PM
Speak to Puma Racing about a nice screamer 1400cc 8v motor Jon. ;)

Cyb3r
04-08-2008, 08:00 PM
funny post

Dave P
04-08-2008, 08:03 PM
:confused:

Neil_A
04-08-2008, 08:49 PM
That'll do nicely Janner, cage looks a nice fit! Based on the various performances ive seen you give in your 106s id imagine it'll be entertaining watching you rallying. Jon 4 Lindy down the side again i say!!

Gus
04-08-2008, 09:27 PM
Looks like a good car to start with.

Jon
04-08-2008, 10:09 PM
Kiwi, The car should be ready in the next few months. I was planning on having it mostly sorted this month but I've got to excersise instead. Then a busy September so it should be all done by Oct/Nov. I don't really want to go straight into a championship but will try and do as much individual stuff as money allows.

Dave, a screaming 8v is also a possibility at some point. I want to get started with a standard engine with the focus on reliability, seeing as enough other stuff is almost certainly going to break.

Cyber, I'm sorry I'm back to an 8v. There is a reason for it this time though. I'll re-assess the 1600 class situation once I've got started as I don't know a huge amount about how competitive it is. I want to start in the 1400 class as I get the impression there's a good variety of cars to give me someone to compete against, rather than going in all the way at the deep end.

Neil, this time I'll be going sideways in a 106 and I'll actually be meant to. Hopefully I'll go a little classier than "Jon" and "Lindy" written in gaffer tape on the side.

Main things left to get:

New roofskin
Paint
Suspension
Tyres

Rich Coleman
05-08-2008, 02:46 PM
Good stuff Jon, looks like you've got yourself a little beast there!

If you could let me know how much the roof skin is when you get it that'd be grand :)

L15TA J
05-08-2008, 05:36 PM
Rich you should know to speak to me about roofskin's! Trade baby

Bonnie
05-08-2008, 05:40 PM
I'm looking forward to the progresss of this project :)

Jon
10-10-2008, 07:40 PM
I haven't updated this thread for a while. The project has been going slowly, but still progressing.

It doesn't look the same anymore

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/jonambler/whiterallye/DSC00152.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/jonambler/whiterallye/DSC00150.jpg

The struts and rear beam are only loosely bolted on as it made moving it around far easier.

I've also been shopping.

Nice new motordrive seats

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/jonambler/whiterallye/DSC06466.jpg

Gripper LSD and pinion with a 5.15 final drive ratio

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/jonambler/whiterallye/DSC06470.jpg

At my parents I've got a big box of stuff to fit, new harnesses, fire extinguisher, intercom and more. I've also got a quantity of white paint in the back of my car. I'll pick up a new roofskin on Monday.

I've got next week off work so the plan is to get cracking and do as much as possible. Strip off the old multilayered paint and repaint white. Fit power steering and get as much stuff as I can bolted back on.

For future reference, if anyone is thinking about taking their roofskin off to fit a new one, don't assume it's easy! The spotwelds along the sides are easy, but there were nearly 50 spot welds across the bit that the boot is bolted to. There's almost no chance of keeping the old one intact and not at least cracking the paint removing it. I was planning on getting another skin from a scrapyard, but after the experience of taking the old one off it really wouldn't have worked.

Rich, for reference the roofskin was £125 plus VAT from a dealer and £105 plus VAT trade

Jon

Ben C
10-10-2008, 08:31 PM
my old car, good to see its geting the TLC it badly needed

who did you buy it from if you dont mind me asking

Jon
12-10-2008, 08:17 PM
Got it from a nice guy called Daniel up near Warwick.

It's been a busy weekend. I've spent a lot of time with the angle grinder today. I made a series 2 pedal box fit and made the power steering rack fit.

I had completely forgotten how tiny 106's are! I had to grind the seat rails out because my head was too close to the cage. I'll mount the seat to the floor instead. I left my blue book at home so need to check whether there's a specific way to plate the floor. It was a pity really, because the seat rails had been put in really well.

80WYA
12-10-2008, 08:18 PM
much work to add pas to a s1 man? glad to see someone with sense! :D

Jon
12-10-2008, 08:25 PM
I like my arms to stay in their sockets with the plate diff. It'll also make it easier and quicker to catch going sideways.

The bottom of the hole in the bulkhead needs cutting out as the S2 pedalbox goes lower. Then the holes that the lugs on the rack go into need extending upwards. I'll confirm it's okay when it's all back together! Then the electric pump will need bolting to the shell. I'll probably put it in the standard place in front of the gearbox for ease.

80WYA
12-10-2008, 08:29 PM
I like my arms to stay in their sockets with the plate diff. It'll also make it easier and quicker to catch going sideways.

know that feeling.. 205 gti + Tran-X plate diff = ouch

Cyb3r
12-10-2008, 08:38 PM
i done my roofskin Jon it was easy the front and back section on yours you drilled the wrong spot welds by the looks of it! You'll see when you got your new skin.

I got a S1 Shell coverted to PAS i'll get some pictures of the engine bay for you if you want!

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h73/cyb3r_thug/25042008466.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h73/cyb3r_thug/25042008467.jpg

i hadn't removed the back bar at that point

Jon
12-10-2008, 08:41 PM
It comes with the bars already welded to it? If so that makes it a lot easier for future!

Yes please on the engine bay pictures. Did you put it in the standard place? In which case does it just look like a GTi engine bay? :p

Cyb3r
12-10-2008, 08:45 PM
i didnt do it i bought it like it. i will get you some pictures when i can the cars out a mates farm.

yea the skin comes with bars welded to it.

Ben C
13-10-2008, 12:39 PM
lol i take it ur quite tall then as i welded those box sections on the drivers rail as im a short ass and had to move the seat up and forward

curl666
14-10-2008, 09:47 PM
I was going to say, i recognise that car from your old Black S1 blog thread ben!

Theres a pic or 2 of it in there!

Ben C
05-11-2008, 08:03 PM
done any more to it yet? :)

Ben C
03-09-2009, 10:32 AM
any updates on this jon be good to see it up and running again

DanS1
03-09-2009, 11:12 PM
done some serious work there fair play