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Old 06-09-2017, 08:47 PM   #1
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Stitch Welding

Im currently in the middle of getting the shell sorted ready to get some paint thrown on it eventually and be able to start putting it back together.

When I did the front end I stitch welded the engine bay following the pug sport group n build manual. But haven't got any information on the rest of the car.

Any advice on where else to stitch weld? I was thinking along the chassis legs under the car and the cross members holding the rear axle. And possibly strengthening up around where the handbrake mounts to.

Any other areas I should look at? Don't want to go too overboard as it's going to be out on the back lanes of Wales so I need a bit of flex somewhere otherwise ill just end up splitting the thing in two.

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Old 07-09-2017, 12:42 AM   #2
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no you dont want flex or it will split.

get a cage that goes to the floor not the arches, strengthen the torque link mountjng and DONT use a solid link.

rear wishbone mountings get a hammering, and the inner wings flex a fair bit what with the hole in them for the steering.

satchell engineering cater for both those.
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Old 07-09-2017, 01:17 AM   #3
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You mean a cage like this?
WP_20170503_19_36_14_Rich by LeeThr, on Flickr
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WP_20170503_19_35_13_Rich by LeeThr, on Flickr
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And this?
WP_20170215_22_39_41_Rich by LeeThr, on Flickr

I will strengthen the torque link mounting, been under it all evening getting the underseal off from under the car. It's going on to a BE4 box so will need to look into a mounting for it.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:51 AM   #4
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that's a decent start

look at the satchell kit for the BE box, much better than anything else I've seen out there, adds a 4th mounting for the engine too.

I think there is an additional plate to the wishbone kit but possibly only for their own wishbones.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:42 PM   #5
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I'll have to do some sums and see what I can do in terms of some more satchel goodies. But the trouble i'll have with the strengthening kit is i've allready got a set of strut top plates welded in, so it would mean having to cut them back out.


Also any suggestions on stitch welding the rest of the car?
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Old 08-09-2017, 07:36 PM   #6
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I am not sure you'll need to worry about stitching the rest of the shell if you have a multipoint cage welded in like the one in the photos you posted. About the only other value would be using various extra gusset and stiffener pieces to tie the shell to the cage at the A and B pillars.
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Old 09-09-2017, 01:25 AM   #7
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The above photos are of my own car. The cage sits tight enough up against the a and b pillars that it's been stitch welded to them as well.

But in that case I'll probably do a bit of stitching on the crossmembers for the rear beam and leave it at that then.
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Old 09-09-2017, 08:11 AM   #8
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no dash bar?
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Old 09-09-2017, 08:33 AM   #9
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Very nice job on the cage. Did you bend it yourself to get it that tight? Looks like a professional install from the pics.
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:11 AM   #10
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No, no dash bar with this one, but with the triangulated bars coming through the bulkhead, by the time a strut brace is fitted, it should use that as well as the bulkhead/scuttle as one.

And Cris, all the bars came bent to shape direct from Safety Devices, all that had to be done with a few of them was cut them to the right length and notch the tubes to suit. Think the only other thing that was done was the a & b pillar bars where jacked out before they were fully welded in place to get them to sit as tight to the body as possible. I didn't fit it though, I had a good friend who run's a local garage but specializes more with Motorsport prep and welding/fabrication work fit it.

This is how it all arrived...
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WP_20170116_13_56_40_Rich by LeeThr, on Flickr.
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Full album of it being fitted here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskVXhSG9
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Old 11-09-2017, 08:32 AM   #11
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that's quite odd what with the rest of it being quite extensive, I would add one if possible.
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:25 PM   #12
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Problem with adding one on, im then modifying the cage design, which releases SD from any responsibility should anything happen thats not intended. And upsets the holomogation, plus whatever rules the blue book has about modifying cages.
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yeah thats why i said if possible, might be an optionyou can add to the cage, like when some have sinlge door bars but you can ask for a cross, or a double diagonal and harness bars.
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:18 PM   #14
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They used to A bolt on option. A supplied tube you cut to length with 2 clamps either side. And that worked fine as you wernt actually modifying the cage just putting something around it in the same sense as padding etc. But they discontinued them.quite a while back unfortunately.

This one had no options on it, the bolt it's had a couple. But the weld in kit was one option as I've got it or not at all.
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Old 13-09-2017, 06:59 PM   #15
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Your pal who did the cage install could presumably make a bolt in dashbar as you described. You can get the cage clamps online. Can't remember where I picked some up last time.
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Old 13-09-2017, 08:31 PM   #16
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Hmm... there's an idea to look into. But that's really going to depend on if I can get clamps shallow enough to sit around the tubes with how close they are to the pillars.

Will have to find some clamps and take some measurements.
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