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Old 05-12-2013, 02:31 PM   #1
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impact gun advice

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...-impact-wrench

you guys recon something along these lines will be any good? mainly for wheel nuts - guess driveshaft hub nuts etc

ive bought 1 or 2 battery powered units before and they were crap - couldn't pull the skin off of a rice pudding!

only very occasional use so cant justify 300+ on a decent battery powered unit
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:17 PM   #2
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Yep as it's powered by the cord it'll have all the power you need, good to go aslong as your garage isn't too big.

The battery ones are REALLY expensive for a decent one! Probably more expensive than a compressor with a cheap gun that'd do the job fine.

120 will get you a half decent compressor & spray/impact gun if you haggle, I know which I'd choose.

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Old 05-12-2013, 04:21 PM   #3
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hhhhhhhmmmmmmm

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Old 05-12-2013, 04:25 PM   #4
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although the reviews on that impact gun are very good, have a look. Only 1.5 meter's cord but everybody has a extension cable to hand.

If you think you want to buy a compressor in the future, save your cash from this & your nearly half way there. The air powered tool's you can pick up are peanuts compared to electric too so you'll have a mass variety you can use with it quite cheaply.

Just a thought if your into tool's. I am & still think the range of thing's you can do with a compressor is amazing.

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Old 05-12-2013, 04:49 PM   #5
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Cheap compressors are a waste of time imo.. they rarely have a big enough CFM output to run tools for any real period of time.. there noisy as feck too in a small garage.. keep an eye on mig-welding website there is usually manly ones on there for a decent price
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Old 05-12-2013, 05:00 PM   #6
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Depends on how much you want to spend. Least brand new you get a warranty with them. The wolf one works for me perfect & has for 2 years. Not too noisy either. I wouldn't buy one of the 99 deal ones on ebay but as I said above a half decent one with tools can be picked up quite cheaply.

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Old 05-12-2013, 05:05 PM   #7
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We've had a battery powered Clarke cordless impact gun for about 4 years now and although its well bruised and battered it is spot on still. Think it was 100 with a couple of batteries. It goes on all rallies with me and will pull hub nuts off no issue.

Agreed, don't buy a small compressor, it's most frustrating having to keep stopping and starting whilst the pressure builds up again. Noise is an issue - build a little insulated shed for it with some vents to aid cooling.
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Old 05-12-2013, 05:57 PM   #8
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I use all makita cordless tools for work(carpentry) and i have both the 1/2inch makita impact wrenches,
The small one which produces about 250nm of torque which i use for bolts upto about M10

And i also have the big makita which produces about 450 nm of torque, which rattles
Off hub nuts, wheels bolts, rear axles etc, effortlessly.

I would deffinitely recomend them, and the lithium batteries are interchangeable on all the makita tools :-)
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Old 05-12-2013, 06:09 PM   #9
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I've got a Clarke cordless one. Spot on. No issues with it and would happily have another.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:54 PM   #10
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I was just thinking then where I used one the other day, then saw your post & remembered it was yours Mike. It was good actually!

50L air compressor is between 120-150 depending on how well you can haggle, will never run out of puff with most things you chuck at it, most 25L ones are shit but good for spraying. Obviously you can pay upto 2k for a top of the range compressor but for the home mechanic a 50L one does the job. Depends what you need though, no smaller than 50L if you want good heavy use out of it.

Only reason I mentioned a compressor is it's much cheaper to buy air powered tool's than electric so save's you cash in the long run, handy to have especially if you have a French car!lol

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Old 05-12-2013, 08:31 PM   #11
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I've got a Clarke cordless one. Spot on. No issues with it and would happily have another.
Next time you go out in the garage could you have a look which one Mike? Been thinking about an impact gun, but something meaty that does 300+Nm is a bit pricey for occasional use!
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:33 PM   #12
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Tank volume is irrelevant imo... its the CFM output of the pump thats important...
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:44 PM   #13
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The one above is 450nm Harv. Not cordless but quite cheap so handy if it's just for light use around the garage when you have a socket/extension lead.

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then pay a extra 50 & buy the twin V engine one! 14CFM is more than enough for any home mechanic.

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Old 05-12-2013, 09:11 PM   #15
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That's probably the best answer yet! Stop being lazy & save your cash!haha
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:55 PM   #16
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ingersol rand battery gun for me
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^^^^

Good shout....

Have used snap-on 18v beast and its very very good.. but

A few guys at work use the ryobi ones and they seem fine, obviously new assembly is easier than old rusty disassembly but from a general neglect/dropped on the floor view they hold up well...
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:08 AM   #18
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thanks for help chaps

very helpful

im 30 now so getting old - cant be doing with strenuous exercises unless it involes a female or females...........
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Tank volume is irrelevant imo... its the CFM output of the pump thats important...
what would you say is an appropriate output? for general garage mechanics - ie just pissing about no heavy of prolonged use!
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You need to look at what tools you plan on running really.. the cheaper ones tend to consume more wind.. (that said a friend of mine had a lot of clarke tools and despite being air hungry they worked and lasted well)

Find the greediest tool (comsumption figures should be on the website) add a small % over that and you'll be fine..
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Next time you go out in the garage could you have a look which one Mike? Been thinking about an impact gun, but something meaty that does 300+Nm is a bit pricey for occasional use!
I've got this one:
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...ordless-impact

However, I actually went in to get the cheaper one which comes with a spare battery.
There is very limited stock of these ones though, hence why I got the more expensive one.

Like I say, it's very good and suits MY needs.


As for compressors, I've got a 50litre 2hp jobbie.
I thought that would be ok for the garage, but it was found wanting when it came to spraying the engine bay. Also, it's not too good at wheel nuts either.
CFM is pretty low- it was from Lidl!!!

ETA:
Machine Mart is VAT free this weekend on most Clarke stuff.
I've got a barcode if anyone needs/ wants it?
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The gun is Similar to ours mike. Serious enough to do most jobs and has lasted well but have to check the 4 Allen key bolts periodically.

Is the machine mart code only for use in store?
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No, on-line too, I'll just get it now.........

This is the code for on-line orders:
9253363756546

You need to print the barcode if you want to buy in-store, so I can email that to anyone who may want it.
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I've had a Sealy 24v one for a couple of years now and it's been great and well worth the 120 it cost. However it won't budge really rusted up big stuff or un-greased overly tight wheel nuts (the big breaker bar come out for that!)... But for most jobs it's spot on. Once I've gotten round to buying a shed to clear some crap out of the garage I'll invest in a decent compressor though so an air gun will be the tool of choice.
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