s16???

matt_e · 29-06-2006, 11:21 AM

do these fit in a 106? i know i am sick of this type of thread but what are the problems?

it looks no bigger than a tu lump and i know ppl like dynofiend put a s16 badge on the side of their cars so anyone? whats the crack? does the ma g box such as the s1 1300 bolt on to these engines?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peugeot-306-S1...ayphotohosting
cheers

please make this a constructive thread and not a sarky comments one?

look at the pics of the engine in this one it dont look bigger than a gti or vts

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUGEOT-306-S1...ayphotohosting

kenich · 29-06-2006, 11:28 AM

S16 106 was the 106 GTi overseas in some Countries. Guess thats why Dyno used that badge as he is 16v...

darrenwm · 29-06-2006, 11:59 AM

Surely the 2.0 306 S16 engine will be a massive thing?

Tweeqd automotive · 29-06-2006, 01:26 PM

the 306 2.0 s16 is an XU engine same as 205, 309 gti and 306 and xsara
it can be made to fit in a 106(PP did one) but it costs alot and is not worth it and you would be better off tuning a vts/gti lump.

the 106GTI was called an s16 in europe but ti had the 16vTU in it

matt_e · 29-06-2006, 02:03 PM

very imformative guys i think the conclusion to "what engine and what can i do to make my 106 fast" is vts/gti 16v engine with cam and head work and forced induction or tbs and management. any other option i.e. bigger lumps etc result in not feasable and probably make the weigh unbalanced and rewin handling etc

Tweeqd automotive · 30-06-2006, 04:18 PM

you can buy 'stroker kits' to increase the CC of the TU lump, not had any dealings with them myself but a guy on SSC had one fitted to a 16vTU in a 205 and increased it to 1760cc iirc.
but the crank was £1400 plus pistons and rods

Baz F · 30-06-2006, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tweeqd automotive

you can buy 'stroker kits' to increase the CC of the TU lump, not had any dealings with them myself but a guy on SSC had one fitted to a 16vTU in a 205 and increased it to 1760cc iirc.
but the crank was £1400 plus pistons and rods

Obviously you have to have it mapped for that but does it alter the compressin aswell ratio?
I assume so?

**dynofiend** · 30-06-2006, 06:35 PM

i think the gti was only badged as s16 in France and Belgium, as the S stands for soupape which is the french word for valves. Everywhere else it was the Gti. My badges were just to get people thinking really. Ive had people point at the car and say 'ohh look, an s16!' which makes me giggle and is the desired effect

**Cyb3r** · 01-07-2006, 02:21 PM

s16 is basically an mi16, but the 2 litre version its too heavy for a 106.

it will just go straight on when you boot it into corners,

it has been done with a mi16 1.9 alloy block into a 106 but again it didnt handle very well

Cyb3r

Lotuz106Rallye · 01-07-2006, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynofiend

i think the gti was only badged as s16 in France and Belgium

Germany too.

maomo106 · 02-07-2006, 04:39 AM

In Colombia and in others suramerican countries the 106 gti and 306 gti were badged as S16, and these are assambled using the 1.6 16v TU engine for the 106 and 2.06 16v 6v box for the 306 just like UK pugs

Sam_Rallye · 02-07-2006, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrenmayne

Surely the 2.0 306 S16 engine will be a massive thing?

It is much bigger than a TU, got one sitting in the garage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt_e

very imformative guys i think the conclusion to "what engine and what can i do to make my 106 fast" is vts/gti 16v engine with cam and head work and forced induction or tbs and management. any other option i.e. bigger lumps etc result in not feasable and probably make the weigh unbalanced and rewin handling etc

OK its a straight fit, is that what you want to hear? Its been covered so many times.

matt_e · 03-07-2006, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_Rallye

It is much bigger than a TU, got one sitting in the garage.

OK its a straight fit, is that what you want to hear? Its been covered so many times.

was there any need for thet??? errr no!

Sam_Rallye · 03-07-2006, 01:15 PM

About the same need for this thread, when its been covered so many times over. Lets think about the likelyhood of you actually doing it, errrr none.

matt_e · 03-07-2006, 01:59 PM

29-06-2006, 11:21 AM	#1
matt_e EXPIRED MEMBER :-( Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: east midlands Posts: 2,736	s16??? do these fit in a 106? i know i am sick of this type of thread but what are the problems? it looks no bigger than a tu lump and i know ppl like dynofiend put a s16 badge on the side of their cars so anyone? whats the crack? does the ma g box such as the s1 1300 bolt on to these engines? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peugeot-306-S1...ayphotohosting cheers please make this a constructive thread and not a sarky comments one? look at the pics of the engine in this one it dont look bigger than a gti or vts http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUGEOT-306-S1...ayphotohosting

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29-06-2006, 01:26 PM	#4
Tweeqd automotive FREELOADER! 85+ posts still not joined :-( Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Guildford Posts: 96	the 306 2.0 s16 is an XU engine same as 205, 309 gti and 306 and xsara it can be made to fit in a 106(PP did one) but it costs alot and is not worth it and you would be better off tuning a vts/gti lump. the 106GTI was called an s16 in europe but ti had the 16vTU in it

29-06-2006, 02:03 PM	#5
matt_e EXPIRED MEMBER :-( Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: east midlands Posts: 2,736	very imformative guys i think the conclusion to "what engine and what can i do to make my 106 fast" is vts/gti 16v engine with cam and head work and forced induction or tbs and management. any other option i.e. bigger lumps etc result in not feasable and probably make the weigh unbalanced and rewin handling etc

30-06-2006, 04:18 PM	#6
Tweeqd automotive FREELOADER! 85+ posts still not joined :-( Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Guildford Posts: 96	you can buy 'stroker kits' to increase the CC of the TU lump, not had any dealings with them myself but a guy on SSC had one fitted to a 16vTU in a 205 and increased it to 1760cc iirc. but the crank was £1400 plus pistons and rods

30-06-2006, 06:35 PM	#8
dynofiend 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New Zealand Posts: 15,424	i think the gti was only badged as s16 in France and Belgium, as the S stands for soupape which is the french word for valves. Everywhere else it was the Gti. My badges were just to get people thinking really. Ive had people point at the car and say 'ohh look, an s16!' which makes me giggle and is the desired effect

01-07-2006, 02:21 PM	#9
Cyb3r 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Holsworthy, Devon Posts: 10,683	s16 is basically an mi16, but the 2 litre version its too heavy for a 106. it will just go straight on when you boot it into corners, it has been done with a mi16 1.9 alloy block into a 106 but again it didnt handle very well Cyb3r

02-07-2006, 04:39 AM	#11
maomo106 REGISTERED FORUM USER - NON MEMBER Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bogota, Colombia Posts: 45	In Colombia and in others suramerican countries the 106 gti and 306 gti were badged as S16, and these are assambled using the 1.6 16v TU engine for the 106 and 2.06 16v 6v box for the 306 just like UK pugs

03-07-2006, 01:15 PM	#14
Sam_Rallye EXPIRED MEMBER :-( Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,811	About the same need for this thread, when its been covered so many times over. Lets think about the likelyhood of you actually doing it, errrr none.

03-07-2006, 01:59 PM	#15
matt_e EXPIRED MEMBER :-( Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: east midlands Posts: 2,736