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Old 11-07-2008, 08:16 AM   #51
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Beautiful machining! Will you map Megasquirt Sandy?
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:13 AM   #52
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:27 PM   #53
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Just did my first Megasquirt yesterday, MS2 Extra 2.01 or something! As long as you have matching ECU/firmware/software etc, so I don't have to wade through the minefield of versions etc or solve mismatch problems, I'm happy to do it.
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Old 11-07-2008, 03:33 PM   #54
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hmm looks lovely!
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Old 11-07-2008, 03:36 PM   #55
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they look great, how are they held onto the tb's? with samco type hose?
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:04 PM   #56
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hi sandy any chance you could give the dimensions of manifold face to trumpet length on both setups so i can work out what one id need. cheers
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:57 PM   #57
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Hats off to the pair of you I say, you have made T/B's a much more realistic option for alot of people including myself
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:06 PM   #58
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Old 13-07-2008, 07:43 AM   #59
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Stunning work Sandy. At last a proper solution not some blue peter knock off, good work.
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Old 13-07-2008, 10:20 AM   #60
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Cheers Sam, you know very well what I'm like!

More pimping pictures....




Colin made some extra trumpets, just in case


Thanks to JGH for the hosting.
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Old 13-07-2008, 12:17 PM   #61
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What cam would you suggest to use with them Sandy? I know you don't aim for max bhp but what kind of figures would you expect combined with the GSXR bodies?

Oh and to those that already have the GSXR bodies, what's a reasonable amount to pay?

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Old 13-07-2008, 02:36 PM   #62
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Mate they look fantastic, those trumpets really look the business! How are the fuel lines going???

Ponk: I'm going to be running these on standard 1.6 8v internals, so that should give you an idea of what adding a cam would do to the figures...And pay around the £100 mark for a nice clean set with the linkages, injectors, fuel rail. Even Ebay US is worth a punt, thats where I got mine from (the ones in the pics) and they were just under £100 including delivery and tax!
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Old 13-07-2008, 02:52 PM   #63
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yeah they seem to be fetching atleast £100 a set now
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Old 13-07-2008, 03:45 PM   #64
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some companies were asking £350 for a set! i got mine for about £75..
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Old 13-07-2008, 04:50 PM   #65
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I got a set off ebay a few days ago for £92
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Old 13-07-2008, 05:45 PM   #66
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Catcam 646 is a good bet for 1.6, or the Newmans PH4, which gave the best result I've seen from a TU5J2 yet, with my DCOE pattern inlet (using converted carb 40s), Raceland and Shillaber head a few weeks back, estimated 160bhp@7000rpm flywheel, 136lbft@5500rpm with a stonking delivery!
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Old 13-07-2008, 05:56 PM   #67
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I got a set off ebay a few days ago for 92
Hahhaaa LOL

Last week i bought a set wich was incomplete because the last butterflys where not there, price: 11 US dollars. Shipping was about 15 dollars. LOL!
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Old 13-07-2008, 06:40 PM   #68
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How about for a 16v engine Sandy? What cams do you expect to work well with the GSXR bodies?
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Newmans do a PH4 for the 16v too IIRC. Or the tried and tested 708s or even 809s.
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Ok cool, im running Piper 285's atm which I believe are similar spec to the 708's.
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Old 13-07-2008, 10:49 PM   #71
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Catcam 646 is a good bet for 1.6, or the Newmans PH4, which gave the best result I've seen from a TU5J2 yet, with my DCOE pattern inlet (using converted carb 40s), Raceland and Shillaber head a few weeks back, estimated 160bhp@7000rpm flywheel, 136lbft@5500rpm with a stonking delivery!
Wow, I didn't expect those kind of figures! Sounds fun Would the pistons need to be machined for both of those cams? or just the PH4?
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Old 14-07-2008, 05:11 AM   #72
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The PH4 needs slight cut outs, but the 646 is ok if the head hasn't been skimmed much.

For an otherwise standard 16v, the Catcam 708s would be a good choice. I haven't tried the Newman TU 16v profiles yet.
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Catcam 646 is a good bet for 1.6, or the Newmans PH4, which gave the best result I've seen from a TU5J2 yet, with my DCOE pattern inlet (using converted carb 40s), Raceland and Shillaber head a few weeks back, estimated 160bhp@7000rpm flywheel, 136lbft@5500rpm with a stonking delivery!

I may have found something akin to teh setup I'm looking for here.... 160bhp would be nice!
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Old 15-07-2008, 03:38 PM   #74
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bought my set of gsxr's for 80$ complete with harness, butterfly's..the lot currently running pt50 cams, will see if they need to go at some point, when i get my megasquirt up and running with these babies!
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The PH4 needs slight cut outs, but the 646 is ok if the head hasn't been skimmed much.

For an otherwise standard 16v, the Catcam 708s would be a good choice. I haven't tried the Newman TU 16v profiles yet.
don't suppose you'd know if the 16v newman ph4's would need valve cutouts?? and if they'd be ok on standard valve springs? trying to avoid taking the head off again and would like something abit wilder than 708's!
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708s really are about the limit on standard valve springs and the obvious choice. I haven't measured the Newman 16v profiles yet, so I can give you precise answers on that, sorry.
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stu's was only a ph2 sandy! with the ph4 i would be thinking abit more power is to be had!

but i can very happily say that is an animal of a car
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ill be using PH3's so we can also see what ill get
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Old 16-07-2008, 06:28 PM   #79
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stu's was only a ph2 sandy! with the ph4 i would be thinking abit more power is to be had!

but i can very happily say that is an animal of a car
Was it? Chroist! It certainly did the business.
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No need to be sorry, unless you mean for sleeping through a cooked breakfast!!
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haha this is true!

for anyone thinking of getting their mapping done by sandy, he's the nicest, most considerate chap you're ever likely to meet. and im not just saying that cos he cooked me grub
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i've never got a cooked breakfast i did get a coffee once

When shall i bring mine over my brown?

i'm thinking end of next week for abit of road mapping then down marks??
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LoL, cheers Paul.

I'll speak to you shortly Dean.
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He'd probably been up an hour before posting that Dean! I thought only farmers got up that early.
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farmers and sandy by the looks of it lol, he's a busy man
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I thought it was all you cornish folk that got up at that hour
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Hi,

Why did this have to drop so soon, getting my VTS back this weekend with a newer lesser mileage engine fitted and set of PH3's fitted & timed along with a long list of mods, however I have the outlay of either getting my dastek fitted & mapped or going through the learning curve with a Megasquirt which basically eats into my finances not allowing me to invest in this uber cool inlet manifold , my finances aside well done Sandy on producing a very high quality inlet manifold and what looks to be a very well researched fit also, if this offer is around Sept/Oct time I will no doubt take one off your hands.

Looking forward to everyones results. (GITS!)

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Cheers, if you would like too, may not be a bad idea either at this rate! PM "Eeyore"
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They look the absolute bollocks Sandy! Top work again there dude!
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Cheers! The "realisation" is mostly creditable to Colin of course! I can soon see this set up being exactly what I want the induction to be.
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It's very finely engineered I will say dude, and obviously your experience has helped Colin out with the design etc. Good that you're finally working with something you enjoy too - what did you do before again? I remember you saying you left to start working with cars/engineering full time...
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Well, it largely consists of me irritating Colin by asking for a tweak that requires a huge amount of added effort He's an exceptional fabricator by anyones standards though and it's extremely fortunate that we can work together; I wouldn't be able to half of what I want to without his help/support/tolerance/patience etc!

The basic bumbling career path was studying leaving school with crap GSCEs--studying marine electronics--general+rally mechanic--studying yacht design--snack bar--yacht chandlery--technical sales of yacht paints (8 years)--this. I've been "playing" with my own stuff and friends cars all the way through of course. But it's the close collaboration with Mark Shillaber and John Read particularly over the last few years that has really given me a major leg up, that's for sure! I gave up a very well paid job, with alot of "benefits" and the prospect of general manager dangled ahead of me, to do this. I don't regret it one bit. I barely earn enough to pay tax currently, but as they say, if you love your job, you'll never work again! I love it, love it, love it!
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Lol awesome! I do agree though dude, if you love what you do that is worth more than a fat pay packet in my opinion! My job is decent, but far from my ideal career choice, but still, it enables me to persue hobbies i love instead! Anyways enough derailment - more pics please!
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Sandy lots of people asking for power outputs. Jus a thought why dont you do a sticky for each type of engine with certain mods and estimated power output as a rough guide.
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I will try do something like that, assuming it suits the owners of course. Alot of what I'm aiming for though is responsiveness and flexibility, which won't show in the figures.
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sandy how much would it be for just the inlet on its own as i already have everything else i need, its just the inlet that came with my setup wone seal at all so i just want to put a new inlet on on
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