S2 Restoration - Page 2

**homologeo** · 24-05-2016, 09:08 PM

Great, thanks. I am definitely going to get some instruction.

Blimey, you have been busy!

**Spanker** · 25-05-2016, 03:22 PM

Wow, page 2 of the project post!!

Flywheel:

5D64ABE7-CCAE-4514-8137-56F2695719C2_zpsjj5sfhsb by spencer barratt, on Flickr

Clutch plate:

4F0D7F54-2B21-4A8F-BB55-5E181BBECB13_zpsa8kneqdu by spencer barratt, on Flickr

dazedandconfused · 30-05-2016, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spanker

Good news! Having the secondary fan fitted has cured the overheating problem in traffic, having two fans has allowed the car to cope with the new manifold, works perfectly, very pleased. Looks great as well, having the empty fan housing never looked right to me....

Next update will be the results of an interior valet, shampoo and rinse of those damn seats again!

The stereo continues to grow in power as well, new Alpine head unit and rear shelf speakers went in recently, amp and front component speakers have arrived, just need to be fitted..

Will also be taking her to Brands for an evening track session soon, want to get that in before I spend a fortune on the bodywork only to slide a tyre wall!

Hello Spanker, can I ask some advice. Why did you put the second fan in? Was your car overheating. I am having an issue with high temperatures with mine, but at motorway speeds but the single fan doesn't seem to help much when it is stationary to cool the rad.

**craigyt** · 30-05-2016, 06:51 AM

If the temp is rising at motorway speeds that would suggest its a thermostat or a headgasket problem.

The fan shouldnt be working at motorway speed, the car should be flowing enough air through the rad to cool the water and be controlled by the thermostat not the fan.

Harv · 30-05-2016, 08:23 AM

Even in traffic the single fan should be more than enough, shiny manifold or not. I'd definitely put a fresh stat in there.

Agree the double fan looks better though.

**Spanker** · 30-05-2016, 08:48 AM

After I changed from the standard manifold which has a shroud, the water and oil temps were getting high in traffic and also at high speed (80 mph and above) as manifold was transferring heat to the radiator and oil filter, was very, very close to the oil filter My manifold was not wrapped.

The original rad fan is on the right hand side of the rad, not the left where the manifold is, installing another fan cured this, and an oil cooler took the temp down further, but this more on the track.

If you have not changed the manifold, then as people have said above, probably a stat problem.

dazedandconfused · 30-05-2016, 11:02 AM

Hi chaps, thanks for the reply. I don't want to derail your thread so I will start a new one about this, so would value your input... I've tried quite a lot of things!

**craigyt** · 30-05-2016, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spanker

After I changed from the standard manifold which has a shroud, the water and oil temps were getting high in traffic and also at high speed (80 mph and above) as manifold was transferring heat to the radiator and oil filter, was very, very close to the oil filter My manifold was not wrapped.

The original rad fan is on the right hand side of the rad, not the left where the manifold is, installing another fan cured this, and an oil cooler took the temp down further, but this more on the track.

If you have not changed the manifold, then as people have said above, probably a stat problem.

As harv said, shiney manifold or not the original fan should be more than enough.

Id stick a themostat in as the twin fan is maskin a different problem.

The shiney manifold should be cooler anyway as it wont hold as much heat as the cast original mani

**Spanker** · 17-06-2016, 07:41 PM

In a change to normal programming, here is a video of my instructor showing me how to get round Snetteron in my own car properly!

Watch out for the black flag at the end, it was shown three times to us that day for track limits, opps..

He loved driving the Rallye.. that from a man who normally drives in the GT series!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfI5f2C1I_k

**Spanker** · 13-07-2016, 06:08 PM

Another day, another trackday, Snetterton yet again!

This is how not to take the hairpin at Montreal, which is the corner after Riches..

We discovered that one of bolts was missing from the rear ARB afterwards, so it was not fixed to the axle, plus I was breaking too late!

https://youtu.be/Due2HKRk0qY

Harv · 13-07-2016, 07:48 PM

That guy is very smooth considering he's in an unfamiliar car!

Rear ARB bolts wandering is usually a sign of a worn rear beam, might be worth thinking about a refurbed beam at some point.

**Spanker** · 27-11-2016, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigyt

As harv said, shiney manifold or not the original fan should be more than enough.

Id stick a themostat in as the twin fan is maskin a different problem.

The shiney manifold should be cooler anyway as it wont hold as much heat as the cast original mani

Well it looks like the water pump was on its way out, I had it changed during a cam belt change, and now it is not overheating, will change the stat soon, thanks everyone!

**Spanker** · 23-02-2017, 09:33 PM

Hello, and welcome back to our coverage!

After a long hiatus due a change in personal circumstances, we are back...

Tomorrow the Rallye is due into the garage for the following:

B8 Bilstein front dampers, 160lb Grams springs, rear purple Powerflex bushes, plus lowering of the rear to match the front..

Also, a new family car turned up! ST3 with Style Pack.... My first Ford, a mate used to have a RS2000, it was sooo tail happy....always fancied a Fiesta ST for the track....

4f1f9ed8-861e-4b4a-b95a-84364d9f1135_zpsr7mwhbuk by spencer barratt, on Flickr

Goodies for tomorrow:

3B8F532C-8866-450B-93B5-7A3BAC20E7CE_zpszbba4jqp by spencer barratt, on Flickr

I will be back at Brands in March to try out the new set up, videos to follow.

I really must fit the Quaife ATB LSD, TTV flywheel and Helix paddle clutch as well!

More to follow on that...

Spencer

**Spanker** · 12-04-2017, 06:13 PM

Had the old girl clayed and machine polished:

A825EF10-7532-4966-96A9-9C42C287B971_zpsprmbm4so by spencer barratt, on Flickr

BAFA2CD7-1417-474D-9C09-49E8213D2E3F_zps0azxdfgo by spencer barratt, on Flickr

7D6B59A1-CD1C-4D97-9C74-DBA9F5506A7F_zpscqe9a161 by spencer barratt, on Flickr

Came out quite well!! Must get those dented panels replaced..

Off to Lydden Hill on Friday..

**Cris B** · 12-04-2017, 09:00 PM

Looking clean!

**Dieseldave** · 12-04-2017, 09:51 PM

That came up very well.

Wayne D · 13-04-2017, 12:26 PM

Cars looking great. (Y)

**Spanker** · 14-04-2017, 06:35 PM

I do enjoy Lydden Hill during the afternoon sessions, less traffic and by then you know who is your equal, today it was a grey Mini Cooper S, however not his best corner during this clip, I was pushing him hard as we came into the corner and the pressure got to him....

https://youtu.be/8wSOw7BAufs

**Cris B** · 14-04-2017, 10:15 PM

That could have ended a LOT worse...

**Spanker** · 15-04-2017, 08:43 AM

Yep, I honestly thought he was going to get spat across the track into the Armco on the right, I could see it coming as he went in too wide and then lifted off, never lift off on that corner!

**Spanker** · 29-04-2017, 09:25 PM

Extended version:

https://youtu.be/eh0v6Y9JPqc

**Spanker** · 19-05-2017, 12:49 PM

LOT of work done to car over the past few weeks:

Gearbox recon
New TTV steel flywheel
Quaife ATB diff
Helix 4 paddle clutch
New clutch cover

Quaife diff with crown-wheel fitted:

B0B00CA7-83E0-4486-A2BA-ED43367C514D_zps1fysgeum by spencer barratt, on Flickr

Otherside:

9D214D3E-CC58-4695-9AF8-AEBF24732974_zpsbsbppm8s by spencer barratt, on Flickr

Old open diff minus the crownwheel:

F0DD3A9A-36DA-4995-922D-32ACCAC89903_zpsoytbyxvi by spencer barratt, on Flickr

But surely the best modification I have ever made to the car below, a rather appropriate number plate for the Rallye, plus 27 is the day of the month i was born on! £250 from the DVLA, bargain....

66894E42-1644-4EF3-AE67-66011B3563D9_zpsotrp9nit by spencer barratt, on Flickr

8792CF47-0C1D-42F3-83C5-37B6EBE16EC3_zps0d01gyel by spencer barratt, on Flickr

Off to a short evening session at Brands Hatch next week to shake it down, before heading to a full day at Lydden in June...

**Cris B** · 20-05-2017, 04:17 PM

Some nice upgrades there - noticeable differences?

**Spanker** · 21-05-2017, 06:07 PM

Thanks, the combination of the Helix paddle clutch and a new standard cover works well, not too harsh and certainly no on or off, just a nice firm bite and take off.

LSD seems good so far after a blast round some country lanes, really need to get it round a track, and can't say much about the flywheel yet, maybe revs a little faster, only done 30 miles so far.

Will post again after returning from a full day at Lydden Hill.

**Spanker** · 10-06-2017, 07:21 PM

Well, what can I say about the Quaife ATB LSD in words alone, other than it is difficult to describe..

A full day at Lydden Hill allowed me to shave off 1.7 seconds from my previous best (bear in mind it was 55.7 before); it allowed me to brake much later than before and even then I clearly still could had even later braking points.

Full throttle through corners seemed alien but worked, and the ability of the car to pull through the exit by stamping on the throttle when I was sliding on all fours was what I can only describe as bizarre...

Some very bad footage of my fastest lap below (did not have not my normal camera mount), that is a BMW 330i I am about to overtake/rinse... one of many cars I manged to overtake, bear in mind I was lowest powered car on track...

...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juQUWM1RhCY

**Spanker** · 02-11-2017, 08:53 PM

Been a while since I posted, fitted a Satchell lower strut brace, far better then the OMP one, car feels much sharper.

To celebrate, a load of us to Cadwell Park for the day, sadly rained all day; and as it was my first time there, I never experienced it dry

Some sloooww footage below trying to find grip, but finding grease instead...

https://youtu.be/ByH4xsT_xpM

**Cris B** · 05-11-2017, 12:23 AM

Looks like it was pretty slippy - what tyres were your running?

**Spanker** · 05-11-2017, 09:41 AM

Everyone was running semi slicks as no standing water, I had Nankang NSR2’s, others were running AR1’s and various Toyo’s, the only cars that gripped were the 4WD’s!

Great day as it was basically a small private track day with less than 30 cars booked, normal day there is around 70 cars...

25-05-2016, 03:22 PM	#52
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	Wow, page 2 of the project post!! Flywheel: 5D64ABE7-CCAE-4514-8137-56F2695719C2_zpsjj5sfhsb by spencer barratt, on Flickr Clutch plate: 4F0D7F54-2B21-4A8F-BB55-5E181BBECB13_zpsa8kneqdu by spencer barratt, on Flickr Last edited by Spanker; 06-08-2017 at 12:43 PM.

17-06-2016, 07:41 PM	#59
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	In a change to normal programming, here is a video of my instructor showing me how to get round Snetteron in my own car properly! Watch out for the black flag at the end, it was shown three times to us that day for track limits, opps.. He loved driving the Rallye.. that from a man who normally drives in the GT series! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfI5f2C1I_k Last edited by Spanker; 17-06-2016 at 07:45 PM.

13-07-2016, 07:48 PM	#61
Harv Slower Than Mike Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Louth, Lincs Posts: 3,356	That guy is very smooth considering he's in an unfamiliar car! Rear ARB bolts wandering is usually a sign of a worn rear beam, might be worth thinking about a refurbed beam at some point. Last edited by Harv; 13-07-2016 at 07:48 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

23-02-2017, 09:33 PM	#63
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	Hello, and welcome back to our coverage! After a long hiatus due a change in personal circumstances, we are back... Tomorrow the Rallye is due into the garage for the following: B8 Bilstein front dampers, 160lb Grams springs, rear purple Powerflex bushes, plus lowering of the rear to match the front.. Also, a new family car turned up! ST3 with Style Pack.... My first Ford, a mate used to have a RS2000, it was sooo tail happy....always fancied a Fiesta ST for the track.... 4f1f9ed8-861e-4b4a-b95a-84364d9f1135_zpsr7mwhbuk by spencer barratt, on Flickr Goodies for tomorrow: 3B8F532C-8866-450B-93B5-7A3BAC20E7CE_zpszbba4jqp by spencer barratt, on Flickr I will be back at Brands in March to try out the new set up, videos to follow. I really must fit the Quaife ATB LSD, TTV flywheel and Helix paddle clutch as well! More to follow on that... Spencer Last edited by Spanker; 06-08-2017 at 12:44 PM.

12-04-2017, 06:13 PM	#64
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	Had the old girl clayed and machine polished: A825EF10-7532-4966-96A9-9C42C287B971_zpsprmbm4so by spencer barratt, on Flickr BAFA2CD7-1417-474D-9C09-49E8213D2E3F_zps0azxdfgo by spencer barratt, on Flickr 7D6B59A1-CD1C-4D97-9C74-DBA9F5506A7F_zpscqe9a161 by spencer barratt, on Flickr Came out quite well!! Must get those dented panels replaced.. Off to Lydden Hill on Friday.. Last edited by Spanker; 06-08-2017 at 12:45 PM.

24-05-2016, 09:08 PM	#51
homologeo 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Kent Posts: 157	Great, thanks. I am definitely going to get some instruction. Blimey, you have been busy!

30-05-2016, 06:51 AM	#54
craigyt 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: May 2011 Location: wakefield Posts: 480	If the temp is rising at motorway speeds that would suggest its a thermostat or a headgasket problem. The fan shouldnt be working at motorway speed, the car should be flowing enough air through the rad to cool the water and be controlled by the thermostat not the fan.

30-05-2016, 08:23 AM	#55
Harv Slower Than Mike Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Louth, Lincs Posts: 3,356	Even in traffic the single fan should be more than enough, shiny manifold or not. I'd definitely put a fresh stat in there. Agree the double fan looks better though.

30-05-2016, 08:48 AM	#56
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	After I changed from the standard manifold which has a shroud, the water and oil temps were getting high in traffic and also at high speed (80 mph and above) as manifold was transferring heat to the radiator and oil filter, was very, very close to the oil filter My manifold was not wrapped. The original rad fan is on the right hand side of the rad, not the left where the manifold is, installing another fan cured this, and an oil cooler took the temp down further, but this more on the track. If you have not changed the manifold, then as people have said above, probably a stat problem.

30-05-2016, 11:02 AM	#57
dazedandconfused REGISTERED FORUM USER - NON MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Herts Posts: 34	Hi chaps, thanks for the reply. I don't want to derail your thread so I will start a new one about this, so would value your input... I've tried quite a lot of things!

13-07-2016, 06:08 PM	#60
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	Another day, another trackday, Snetterton yet again! This is how not to take the hairpin at Montreal, which is the corner after Riches.. We discovered that one of bolts was missing from the rear ARB afterwards, so it was not fixed to the axle, plus I was breaking too late! https://youtu.be/Due2HKRk0qY

12-04-2017, 09:00 PM	#65
Cris B 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: t'Internet Posts: 4,022	Looking clean! __________________

12-04-2017, 09:51 PM	#66
Dieseldave 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sligo,Ireland Posts: 1,589	That came up very well.

13-04-2017, 12:26 PM	#67
Wayne D IRISH REGIONAL LEADER Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monaghan,Ireland Posts: 1,084	Cars looking great. (Y) __________________ [IMG]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1/wayne_douglas/Sig2009.jpg[/IMG] 106 Rallye Video [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYEWnCiGOHw[/url]

14-04-2017, 06:35 PM	#68
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	I do enjoy Lydden Hill during the afternoon sessions, less traffic and by then you know who is your equal, today it was a grey Mini Cooper S, however not his best corner during this clip, I was pushing him hard as we came into the corner and the pressure got to him.... https://youtu.be/8wSOw7BAufs

14-04-2017, 10:15 PM	#69
Cris B 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: t'Internet Posts: 4,022	That could have ended a LOT worse... __________________

15-04-2017, 08:43 AM	#70
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	Yep, I honestly thought he was going to get spat across the track into the Armco on the right, I could see it coming as he went in too wide and then lifted off, never lift off on that corner!

29-04-2017, 09:25 PM	#71
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	Extended version: https://youtu.be/eh0v6Y9JPqc

19-05-2017, 12:49 PM	#72
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	LOT of work done to car over the past few weeks: Gearbox recon New TTV steel flywheel Quaife ATB diff Helix 4 paddle clutch New clutch cover Quaife diff with crown-wheel fitted: B0B00CA7-83E0-4486-A2BA-ED43367C514D_zps1fysgeum by spencer barratt, on Flickr Otherside: 9D214D3E-CC58-4695-9AF8-AEBF24732974_zpsbsbppm8s by spencer barratt, on Flickr Old open diff minus the crownwheel: F0DD3A9A-36DA-4995-922D-32ACCAC89903_zpsoytbyxvi by spencer barratt, on Flickr But surely the best modification I have ever made to the car below, a rather appropriate number plate for the Rallye, plus 27 is the day of the month i was born on! £250 from the DVLA, bargain.... 66894E42-1644-4EF3-AE67-66011B3563D9_zpsotrp9nit by spencer barratt, on Flickr 8792CF47-0C1D-42F3-83C5-37B6EBE16EC3_zps0d01gyel by spencer barratt, on Flickr Off to a short evening session at Brands Hatch next week to shake it down, before heading to a full day at Lydden in June... Last edited by Spanker; 06-08-2017 at 12:47 PM.

20-05-2017, 04:17 PM	#73
Cris B 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: t'Internet Posts: 4,022	Some nice upgrades there - noticeable differences? __________________

21-05-2017, 06:07 PM	#74
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	Thanks, the combination of the Helix paddle clutch and a new standard cover works well, not too harsh and certainly no on or off, just a nice firm bite and take off. LSD seems good so far after a blast round some country lanes, really need to get it round a track, and can't say much about the flywheel yet, maybe revs a little faster, only done 30 miles so far. Will post again after returning from a full day at Lydden Hill. Last edited by Spanker; 21-05-2017 at 06:10 PM.

10-06-2017, 07:21 PM	#75
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	Well, what can I say about the Quaife ATB LSD in words alone, other than it is difficult to describe.. A full day at Lydden Hill allowed me to shave off 1.7 seconds from my previous best (bear in mind it was 55.7 before); it allowed me to brake much later than before and even then I clearly still could had even later braking points. Full throttle through corners seemed alien but worked, and the ability of the car to pull through the exit by stamping on the throttle when I was sliding on all fours was what I can only describe as bizarre... Some very bad footage of my fastest lap below (did not have not my normal camera mount), that is a BMW 330i I am about to overtake/rinse... one of many cars I manged to overtake, bear in mind I was lowest powered car on track... ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juQUWM1RhCY Last edited by Spanker; 10-06-2017 at 09:49 PM.

02-11-2017, 08:53 PM	#76
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	Been a while since I posted, fitted a Satchell lower strut brace, far better then the OMP one, car feels much sharper. To celebrate, a load of us to Cadwell Park for the day, sadly rained all day; and as it was my first time there, I never experienced it dry Some sloooww footage below trying to find grip, but finding grease instead... https://youtu.be/ByH4xsT_xpM

05-11-2017, 12:23 AM	#77
Cris B 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: t'Internet Posts: 4,022	Looks like it was pretty slippy - what tyres were your running? __________________

05-11-2017, 09:41 AM	#78
Spanker 106 RALLYE REGISTER MEMBER Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: London Posts: 220	Everyone was running semi slicks as no standing water, I had Nankang NSR2’s, others were running AR1’s and various Toyo’s, the only cars that gripped were the 4WD’s! Great day as it was basically a small private track day with less than 30 cars booked, normal day there is around 70 cars...

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